F1 2021

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Well that is a season for the history books. An entire season ultimately coming down to a one lap sprint to decide the title.

It was an exciting season though! Checo was an absolute legend and it was a shame he had to retire.
 
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They had the opportunity to pit him when his hard tyres started to go off after ~20 laps. He was clearly faster when he had healthy tyres so the strategy of leaving him out there in front and hoping for the best was found to be hopelessly optimistic. Stupid even in hindsight. Had they put him on the brand new soft rubber waiting for him with 10-15 laps to go I wouldn't have bet against him getting past MV or whoever was in front of him. The team threw it all away and Hamilton knows it, hence his increasingly frustrated radio calls.

ps Wasn't Perez amazing. Got his elbows out but drove very fairly and literally took one for the team.

Hamilton had a 10 second lead with 6 laps to go, I don't think he needed to pit for tyres. It was only because Max put on fresh tyres under the safety car that Ham was left vulnerable. If he had pitted when you suggest had he would have been in the same position, with worn soft tyres v Max on new ones.

I do agree Perez was very useful and helped Max out hugely.
 
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For a sport to be governed by so many rules. It was somewhat surprising to see the governing body forsake rules for the sake of generating a one lap spectacle. Unlucky for the guy on old tyres. Maybe it was karma? No way Ham should have held his position form the start after leaving the track. Roll on 2022.
 
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The F1 died today....
Or
A new era started?

It is up for interpretation.

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Leaving Hamilton out there slithering around on 40 lap old knackered tyres was not clever, regardless of maintaining track position. Mercedes were given the opportunity to do the smart move twice and blew it twice. Then team even asked LH what tyre he wanted if there was a safety car so they can't say it was a surprise when there was one.

This was the right result on that basis alone. RB outthought Mercedes.
I disagree with the gap he had to Max, if he had pitted in the first case Max would have stayed out and taken the lead. No one wanted to pass Max and the 18 second gap he had after Max pitted was enough margin. Assuming they pitted and Lewis had newer tires and was 4 secondss behind Max with we all know would have been a much faster pace, would you want to have to pass Max as he would know that it was likely his last chance to win was if he took themselves both out by accident of course....

If he had pitted in the second safety car Max would have stayed out, and they ran the risk of the race finishing under the safety car with Hamilton in second after he pitted for tires and Max stayed out.

MB literally did the only thing they could have done in those cases.
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3 hours ago the FIA stewards reject Mercedes protest. As of 2 hours ago, Mercedes are trying again

 
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It’s a risky decision to upset Mercedes, as it’s entirely possible they could ‘throw their toys out of the pram’ and threaten to leave F1. MB bring a lot to F1, including their factory team, their development squad, and the engines they provide to others, etc.

I guess they will stay as they have ploughed so much $$$ into the 2022 regs car, but they really have nothing left to prove after dominating with 8 consecutive constructor’s championships. Who would step in to fill the gap if, on top of Honda (officially, if not entirely) leaving, Mercedes also withdrew from the sport? Is it time for a Ford Cosworth reboot?

I envisage a bit of politicking behind the scenes here, though I’d be surprised if any decisions are overturned. (I bet Masi has turned his phone off today).
 
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It’s a risky decision to upset Mercedes, as it’s entirely possible they could ‘throw their toys out of the pram’ and threaten to leave F1. MB bring a lot to F1, including their factory team, their development squad, and the engines they provide to others, etc.

I guess they will stay as they have ploughed so much $$$ into the 2022 regs car, but they really have nothing left to prove after dominating with 8 consecutive constructor’s championships. Who would step in to fill the gap if, on top of Honda (officially, if not entirely) leaving, Mercedes also withdrew from the sport? Is it time for a Ford Cosworth reboot?

I envisage a bit of politicking behind the scenes here, though I’d be surprised if any decisions are overturned. (I bet Masi has turned his phone off today).
Well then they should f*** off. F1 cannot be held to ransom by toto Wolff when he doesn’t get his way. Yes, today was not particularly satisfactory but they need to move on. The only person who comes out of this with credit is hamilton at the moment.
 
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Max was going to win a championship eventually, it is kind of annoying that this is going to become a sort of mark on his championship wins, even though he raced well this whole season.

Checo's defending was so much fun to watch too!

Oh well, so it goes. Lewis and his family handled this really well. Class act all of them.

I hope those Drive to Survive cameras were in the MB room with Toto hahaha, can't wait for the next season
 
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It’s a risky decision to upset Mercedes, as it’s entirely possible they could ‘throw their toys out of the pram’ and threaten to leave F1. MB bring a lot to F1, including their factory team, their development squad, and the engines they provide to others, etc.

I guess they will stay as they have ploughed so much $$$ into the 2022 regs car, but they really have nothing left to prove after dominating with 8 consecutive constructor’s championships. Who would step in to fill the gap if, on top of Honda (officially, if not entirely) leaving, Mercedes also withdrew from the sport? Is it time for a Ford Cosworth reboot?

I envisage a bit of politicking behind the scenes here, though I’d be surprised if any decisions are overturned. (I bet Masi has turned his phone off today).
Audi/Porsche are already waiting in the wings to join, if Mercedes’ operation was for sale I’m sure they’d swoop in on those assets
 
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The only people that have threatened to take thier toys and go home is Red Bull. Ferrari has also threatened it periodically but no one takes them seriously as they make more money then any other team even if they come in last place. They have always had a sweetheart deal with F1.
 
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The only people that have threatened to take thier toys and go home is Red Bull. Ferrari has also threatened it periodically but no one takes them seriously as they make more money then any other team even if they come in last place. They have always had a sweetheart deal with F1.
F1 let’s Ferrari remain one or the worlds finest overpriced t-shirt and baseball cap companies, they’re 100% not going anywhere lol
 
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This argument will go on forever, Lulu fans should accept the fact that MV drove the best lap of his entire career, and Max fans should accept that he was very fortunate to get that opportunity.
 
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This argument will go on forever, Lulu fans should accept the fact that MV drove the best lap of his entire career, and Max fans should accept that he was very fortunate to get that opportunity.

It would be easy to accept the result if they had been on comparable rubber, but turning an unassailable lead into a one lap shoot out heavily favouring one driver is hard to see as a fair battle.
 
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It would be easy to accept the result if they had been on comparable rubber, but turning an unassailable lead into a one lap shoot out heavily favouring one driver is hard to see as a fair battle.
Hamilton could have changed tyres but Toto chose to gamble on leaving him out on old tyres.
If Hamilton had pitted for new softs under the safety car period he would be on paper, the GOAT.
 
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After digesting this for a day I'm still not sure how to feel.
I appreciate the fact that they were "allowed" to race. But the circumstances were just...well, I still don't know.
I don't have a vested interest in either Max or Lewis, never really been a fan of either TBH, so my opinions are totally non-bias.
Did Masi "break" the rules? Not so sure. At the end of the day aren't the rules there as a guideline for decisions to me made?
I know for a fact that Lewis has benefited from decisions made off of the track.
I would have hated for the race to end under yellow.
Did Max have a clear advantage? Absolutely. But a lot of racing is being at the right place at the right time, and taking calculated risks and Max happened to find himself in the right place at the right time and his crew had made the right calls..
And if this had gone the other way, I would say the same exact thing about Lewis/Merc. Of course the Lewis fans feel shafted, but I wonder how they'd be feeling had the situation been reversed. I have a feeling they would find a way to justify it.
I'm still not saying it was "right", but at the end of the day it sometimes takes more than just being the guy in front to win a race...
 
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I think when decisions are made based on spectacle and entertainment value than fairness, and following specific guidelines, then the sport loses credibility.

I’m an LH fan - but I’m also an f1 fan. Max was a better driver this season and you could tell he wanted it more. If he won legitimately, I would be happy with the result. This is a farce.

The race was over. LH was leading by 10+ seconds. To pit him against a driver with fresh softs is the equivalent of placing a college freshman against an NFL pro.

Sorry this WDC win is tainted.
 
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The race was over.

Hammy hadn't crossed the finish line yet so no, it obviously wasn't lol.