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·I can’t say that I’m surprised. I guess we’ll see if Albon & Gasly were really that bad or if the RB is too geared toward Max for anyone else to drive well.
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8100_RPM
·I really think Albon was that bad. I never expected him to be close to Max or the Mercedes but driving the RB should mean he’s not stuck behind mid field teams.
However, Albon still appeared to do better than Gasly did in the RB. He actually passed cars whereas Gasly, in 2019, seemed to be perpetually stuck behind other cars.
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Speed1283
·So who goes in Albon's place?
Hulkenberg? Perez?
I think I saw in the last few days that Perez to RB was likely being finalized.
But I never know what is just speculation...
I think Perez 'deserves' the seat more and would be a solid driver for the team, but if Redbull do replace Alvin with him, are they effectively killing of their young driver programme? Gasly and Kvyatt both demoted back into Toro Rosso, if Albon were to go too, what does it say about their scheme? That's something they might be thinking about.
I do think Perez should get the seat though.
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Foo2rama
··Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can.I can’t say that I’m surprised. I guess we’ll see if Albon & Gasly were really that bad or if the RB is too geared toward Max for anyone else to drive well.
look albons stuck in his head, gasley is decent but no star. They have no one in F2 right now so Max and Checko it is although I’d rather see checko at McLaren or someone else’s that could use the money he brings.
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texasmade
·I think Perez 'deserves' the seat more and would be a solid driver for the team, but if Redbull do replace Alvin with him, are they effectively killing of their young driver programme? Gasly and Kvyatt both demoted back into Toro Rosso, if Albon were to go too, what does it say about their scheme? That's something they might be thinking about.
I do think Perez should get the seat though.
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vbrad26
·What's Vettel's motivation and what does he expect to achieve? Hate to see former top drivers slide down and join second or third tier teams. It never works out and their legacies are dinged.
He wants to continue doing what he loves? Lol I don't know.
As for his move, as of this past season, he will actually be sliding up hah.
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bluebarchetta
·The program did churn out Seb, Max, Daniel, and Carlos. That’s a pretty impressive list. They were eventually going to hit a dry spell and looks like they’re in one now.
Tsunoda up to AT is actually one of their drivers too, so not sure it’s a total dry spell yet. He went F4 to F1 in 4 years. I agree that Gassly and Albon haven’t met expectations at RBR. The question might be, are they rushing the drivers development, and showing less patience than needed. A Max doesn’t come along often, and drivers develop along their own timelines. Technically, they gave up on Carlos also. Perez in the car might not necessarily tell them Gassly and Albon are bad, it might just tell them the car needs someone with more experience. That said, I do like Perez and think it’s the right move, at least for the short term.
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texasmade
·Tsunoda up to AT is actually one of their drivers too, so not sure it’s a total dry spell yet. He went F4 to F1 in 4 years. I agree that Gassly and Albon haven’t met expectations at RBR. The question might be, are they rushing the drivers development, and showing less patience than needed. A Max doesn’t come along often, and drivers develop along their own timelines. Technically, they gave up on Carlos also. Perez in the car might not necessarily tell them Gassly and Albon are bad, it might just tell them the car needs someone with more experience. That said, I do like Perez and think it’s the right move, at least for the short term.
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBI
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haqq777
·What is the RBR power unit situation after 2021 when Honda pulls out like they have said? Any chance they would go back to Renault as supplier for their engines like before? Just wondering about possible scenarios.
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··Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can.What is the RBR power unit situation after 2021 when Honda pulls out like they have said? Any chance they would go back to Renault as supplier for their engines like before? Just wondering about possible scenarios.
that bridge is burned, and then they dumped radioactive waste on it, then discovered it’s a portal to hell. So I doubt it will ever be rebuilt, I don’t think Renault would make a deal with a devil even if they have no engine buyers... there is no way Merc will give an engine to an Adrian Newey designed car... so Ferrari is my guess.
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texasmade
·Supposedly they're going to buy Honda's IP and continue using the Honda developed PU.
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·Yeah that was the last I heard.
I can't remember if I posted it somewhere in the old thread but this was the tidbit I saw:
"Missed Apex understands that Horner and Marko are in Austria to meet with Mateschitz. the aim of the meeting is to get a sign off on the finance to buy the Honda engine IP.
Talk of it being badged as Mugen who are already based in Milton Keynes."
Not sure what came of that since that was back in October. But I never researched it either...
I can't remember if I posted it somewhere in the old thread but this was the tidbit I saw:
"Missed Apex understands that Horner and Marko are in Austria to meet with Mateschitz. the aim of the meeting is to get a sign off on the finance to buy the Honda engine IP.
Talk of it being badged as Mugen who are already based in Milton Keynes."
Not sure what came of that since that was back in October. But I never researched it either...
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arturo7
·The addition of Perez to the Red Bull team adds resources that could be used to pursue the Honda IP/Mugen option.
Apparently, Cosworth may be in the picture as well.
Apparently, Cosworth may be in the picture as well.
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Foo2rama
··Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can.Yeah that was the last I heard.
I can't remember if I posted it somewhere in the old thread but this was the tidbit I saw:
"Missed Apex understands that Horner and Marko are in Austria to meet with Mateschitz. the aim of the meeting is to get a sign off on the finance to buy the Honda engine IP.
Talk of it being badged as Mugen who are already based in Milton Keynes."
Not sure what came of that since that was back in October. But I never researched it either...
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskTalk of it being badged as Mugen who are already based in Milton Keynes."
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MRC
·Misread Mugen as Morgan 👍.
How about some thread convergence -- Rickie Tarr's Speedy was mentioned in https://omegaforums.net/threads/favorite-movie-featuring-a-speedmaster.31224/page-2#post-1367531 so I pulled out that "Tinker, Taylor" DVD tonight, and we have Peter Guillam's Morgan used to convey George Smiley to Oliver Lacon. Engine noise seems to be both 4-cyl and V-8 on different occasions, but hey, that's film making.
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simonsays
·So what are the predictions on where Perez is compared to Max.
Checo has experience but I don’t rate him as a great driver. I though Ocon had him beat at Racing Point, and it was only his money that kept him in the car.
I think it could be a difficult season for him.
Checo has experience but I don’t rate him as a great driver. I though Ocon had him beat at Racing Point, and it was only his money that kept him in the car.
I think it could be a difficult season for him.
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worldwidewes
·I'm super happy for Checo. Hopefully he can get some wins under his belt in 2021 with a championship-contending car. And hopefully the title fight is a lot closer.
