Everything You Need To Know About The New Speedmaster Moonwatch

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Well said, queriver!

My first job out of college was a 2-year posting as a middle school teacher, as part of a teacher-placement program to staff public schools in low-income communities across the US. I remember showing up to my work first day, and finding there wasn't even a single text book available to use. All lesson plans & materials had to be created, then produced either from scratch, or tapping into professional networks.

I pursued a different career after my 2 years were finished, but several of my colleagues from that cohort chose to stay in education. Whether working as classroom teachers, or going into school administration or policy. I commend their continued passion for expanding access to educational equity across our country.

Our forum postings either for, or against the use of "human space missions", doesn't make any difference in effecting widespread public recognition of all the contributions that women have made toward science & space exploration.

Those who are truly impassioned to raise more public awareness and commemoration on the tremendous accomplishments of women crew members, will find their time is better invested on actions like launching or supporting blogs, special interest groups, or foundations. Posting on a luxury watch forum one's strong opinions of 'Human' vs 'Manned', doesn't yield any outcomes.

Personally, I've always preferred as minimal writing as possible on both dial & caseback. Decorations like a hippocampus on the caseback (I know, it's totally a different thing than the text) actually detract from the wrist-comfort of a watch for me. So my personal preference is for plain casebacks, like those on Rolex models, or see-through casebacks.

Haha, and for the tongue-in-cheek flair: time will tell when witty forum members begin to campaign for a "(S)He" helium escape valve text on Planet Oceans.
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Not offering the applied logo on the Hesalite is a disappointing snub. It's a $7,000 watch. What would it cost them? $2?
 
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Not offering the applied logo on the Hesalite is a disappointing snub. It's a $7,000 watch. What would it cost them? $2?
They want you to buy the upgraded version......classic marketing.
 
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Well said, queriver!

My first job out of college was a 2-year posting as a middle school teacher, as part of a teacher-placement program to staff public schools in low-income communities across the US. I remember showing up to my work first day, and finding there wasn't even a single text book available to use. All lesson plans & materials had to be created, then produced either from scratch, or tapping into professional networks.

I pursued a different career after my 2 years were finished, but several of my colleagues from that cohort chose to stay in education. Whether working as classroom teachers, or going into school administration or policy. I commend their continued passion for expanding access to educational equity across our country.

Our forum postings either for, or against the use of "human space missions", doesn't make any difference in effecting widespread public recognition of all the contributions that women have made toward science & space exploration.

Those who are truly impassioned to raise more public awareness and commemoration on the tremendous accomplishments of women crew members, will find their time is better invested on actions like launching or supporting blogs, special interest groups, or foundations. Posting on a luxury watch forum one's strong opinions of 'Human' vs 'Manned', doesn't yield any outcomes.

Personally, I've always preferred as minimal writing as possible on both dial & caseback. Decorations like a hippocampus on the caseback (I know, it's totally a different thing than the text) actually detract from the wrist-comfort of a watch for me. So my personal preference is for plain casebacks, like those on Rolex models, or see-through casebacks.

Haha, and for the tongue-in-cheek flair: time will tell when witty forum members begin to campaign for a "(S)He" helium escape valve text on Planet Oceans.

Wow.
I wonder what Megxit would say to this?
 
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What if someone on the Omega design team simply thought adding "IN 1965" was a nice update to the case back to compliment the aesthetic changes to the rest of the new watch? Maybe they are saying "Hey, it's a new watch and we have brought it up to modern specifications but its roots go all the way back to 1965 with its use by NASA"

While speculation is fun, I think sometimes we dig too deep into the weeds for answers there might not really be a good answer for.

Agreed.
However, I think it's simply the product of a grab bag of all current modern day marketing requirements.
 
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Haha, and for the tongue-in-cheek flair: time will tell when witty forum members begin to campaign for a "(S)He" helium escape valve text on Planet Oceans.
Thank you for your kind words. With the fun police in charge, Omega face many demands for cancellation:
SpeedMASTER, SeaMASTER, GlobeMASTER -- gone, sexist
MASTER Chronometer -- gone, sexist
LADYmatic -- gone, sexist
Limited editions -- gone, elitist
HERITAGE models -- gone, ageist
de Ville -- gone, elitist (excludes rural folk)
Bullhead -- not neutered, so off to the slaughterhouse it goes.
... and we'll all be wearing Mao suits.
 
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those most affected by inequality, won't in any way be improved by a mere word change.

Agreed. Up to a point.
It can be argued that meaningfull change comes from within, not by projection in this context.

However, the word change is not harmful even if it is mildly controversial.
Change can be most problematic for individuals, small groups of individuals and entire cultures👎
 
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Bringing some small attention to the historical contributions of women in space shouldn't be upsetting. Wonder what it was like in the 1960's...
 
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Agreed.
However, I think it's simply the product of a grab bag of all current modern day marketing requirements.

I *personally* don’t think much conjecture is needed to see that the “in 1965” is placed there to make clear (but only so clear) that this model watch has never been qualified by NASA.

The optimist would say this is because Omega has an interest in truth; the pessimist would say this is because all manner of deceptive trade practices laws frown upon (among other things also applicable here) acts that cause confusion regarding the sponsorship, approval, or certification of goods. Such laws prohibit companies from representing, for example, that a product has the approval of an organization that has not really approved it.

And, such deceptive trade practices claims typically have per-transaction penalties - meaning that for Omega, each watch sold could be a separate violation.

That in mind, despite the prior model’s tenuous connection to NASA’s qualification Omega may have risk-adjusted one way; but with this new model, I suspect Omega has risk-adjusted another way.
 
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Hi Robert- Jan,

A perfect article on a very interesting and significant release from Omega!

I think the key quandary Omega has solved was how to a) update the Speedmaster with its proprietary Co-Axial Master Chronometer technology without b) alienating hard core Speedmaster collectors who might reject these changes as not being a true moonwatch.

I think what Omega learned from previous co-axial powered Speedmaster releases (ex. the enamel 50th Anniversary LEs) was that they never were accepted completely by the collector community nor was the FOIS fully accepted as a true moonwatch.

The solution was two-fold:

Omega has by first releasing the "Speedmaster Heritage Models Calibre 321 | OMEGA® " Ed White legitimized the existing FOIS cased watches and given collectors a "grail" watch that stays true to the history of the Omega Speedmaster through it's tomography scanned Cal. 321 movement.

AND

Now releasing the Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Caliber 3861 Master Chronometer afterwards Omega can modernize the Speedmaster line while still retaining the essence of vintage Speedmaster with design queues like the dot over 90, stepped dial, and a visual differentiator of the applied (sapphire) printed (hesalite) Omega symbols plus an upgraded bracelet - but in a package and design that is palatable to collectors and whose improvements may appeal to new customers. Most of all it allows Omega to gain economies of scale in production of the Cal. 3861.

RJ - I think this and your the Fratello Podcast - Talking With Omega’s Andreas Hobmeier - All About Master Chronometer and METAS really highlights classic watch journalism at it's best. Great work!
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With the fun police in charge, Omega face many demands for cancellation:
LADYmatic -- gone, sexist
Limited editions -- gone, elitist
HERITAGE models -- gone, ageist
de Ville -- gone, elitist (excludes rural folk)
Bullhead -- not neutered, so off to the slaughterhouse it goes.
... and we'll all be wearing Mao suits.

::rimshot:: Ha! What a way to ring in 2021, the year of the Ox in the Asian zodiac.

Dare we even mention the ceramic White Side of the Moon? ::stirthepot::

 
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"After nearly 25 years, it is time for an update"?

Seriously?

Gah.
 
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Bringing some small attention to the historical contributions of women in space shouldn't be upsetting. Wonder what it was like in the 1960's...

So you weren't there?

You know what they say in some circles.
If you can remember the 60's, you weren't there.

Me personally, I can remember them only because I was born in that era.
As with all generations, each was different and governed by different social norms. Always evolving sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse.
Invariably there are trade offs in gaining some things and losing others. The equibrilibrium will always be maintained regardless.
 
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If you can remember the 60's, you weren't there.

Me personally, I can remember them only because I was born in that era.
As with all generations, each was different and governed by different social norms. Always evolving sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse.

And the rest of the country was not like California. All of those retrospective shows focus on California, and not everyone was like that.

During the "Summer of Love", for example, black people were being lynched in the South just because they wanted to vote and not be segregated.

So, I, personally, am angry with people who think the California experience was nationwide... because it wasn't.
 
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I form my own opinion that people who find it necessary to write about the importance of "renaming" for equality, and cancelling this or that, especially on a luxury watch forum of all places, probably don't suffer from real inequality themselves

Posting on a luxury watch forum one's strong opinions of 'Human' vs 'Manned', doesn't yield any outcomes.

... they said, while going on, and on, and on, about their own opinion of the very same topic, in a watch forum

Get a room, you two ... a different one.
 
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And the rest of the country was not like California. All of those retrospective shows focus on California, and not everyone was like that.

During the "Summer of Love", for example, black people were being lynched in the South just because they wanted to vote and not be segregated.

So, I, personally, am angry with people who think the California experience was nationwide... because it wasn't.

True enough👍
And yet, here where I grew up we never had such social turmoil.
I grew up in a deeply conservative state but still was able to have exposure to alternate/hippy culture.
I remember not all that long ago(as it seems now) where there was only one locality in our city where one was actually able to buy something as simple as vegetarian food to sit down and eat😉
Things are very different now.

I would urge you to channel your anger toward making positive change to elements of your daily life😀
 
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I know Mad Men writers didn't mean to offend audiences, but I do remember how the pilot episode set in early 1960, included 1 woman introducing a typewriter to a new-hire secretary.

Joan: "...try not to be overwhelmed by all this technology...it looks complicated, but the men who designed it made it simple enough for a woman to use"

Peggy *flustered*: "...I sure hope so"

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So you weren't there?

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Born when Eisenhower was President. Dad was in the Army so we spent most of the sixties in Germany. He got orders to Vietnam so we had to move and the family went to New Jersey. It was like I was dropped down from the moon. Big time culture shock.

I went to a public school (goes without saying) and remember when the high school girls were allowed to wear jeans but the junior high girls were not. At the time it seemed so unfair. Now it seems crazy that was ever a thing.

I am definitely a hypocrite and an a-hole (at times, I have my moments). We're all trying our best. Don't want to be a dick. Hope we're all good here.

Love the OF. Please don't kick me off.

Dave
 
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The Mercury 13 existed, were a group of immensely talented and experienced women who trained for flight and space travel when they faced active opposition.

The living women from the original Mercury 13 were thrilled in the accomplishments of the men and did not begrudge them. They just wanted to join them.

Well without a doubt the contributions and accomplishments of women in space exploration, and other important professions, has continued over the past half century.

I just watched an interview on UK TV with the technicians responsible for developing the Oxford Vaccine for Covid19. Most of the team are Women.

As far back as the 1980's, the 3 most powerful or influential people in the the UK were women. The Prime minister Margaret Thatcher, The Queen and Princess Diana. We've just had another female Prime Minister and our current Home Secretary is a women.

We are used to women running the show, and we moan about their incompetence, hypocrisy and over privilege as much as we do the blokes.
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