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Everything You Need To Know About The New Speedmaster Moonwatch

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Check out the "Mercury 13" and Jerrie Cobb in particular. She could fly as well as any of the original 7 and did as well if not better in the physical testing conducted by the same Lovelace.

There were only blokes on the moon because the blokes had control, not because they were the only ones who could do it. Johnson said if he let women do it then he'd have to let minorities too.

It doesn't take away the accomplishments of the men who first went into space to acknowledge the injustice done to the women who also qualified but were denied the opportunity to be astronauts.

NASA was a reflection of society that existed at the time, faults and all. Change is inevitable, growth is optional.

Thanks for this info. I'd scarcely heard of her, which is telling in itself. Looking forward to learning more.

I do like the domed hands -- hadn't noticed those from the renders. Definitely more striking. Are they any more or less legible?
 
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I suspect it has more to do with not being qualified by NASA than it does to changing to a gender-neutral word. It would seem rather petty and kinda ridiculous to add "in 1965" so that they could keep it "manned". The "in 1965" version in my opinion is worse than "human".

What if someone on the Omega design team simply thought adding "IN 1965" was a nice update to the case back to compliment the aesthetic changes to the rest of the new watch? Maybe they are saying "Hey, it's a new watch and we have brought it up to modern specifications but its roots go all the way back to 1965 with its use by NASA"

While speculation is fun, I think sometimes we dig too deep into the weeds for answers there might not really be a good answer for.
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Detailed article and it even (finally) comes in a smaller box 👍
The new Speedmaster 310.30.42.50.01.001
I can barely remember six figures ( 105.003 or 14060M )
Are there information available about the new box?
 
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I think its pretty while not being especially revolutionary in the new look. I won't be adding one for at least three years as I have the Snoopy coming this year and I fully intend to be a lucky recipient of a Speedy Tuesday 3 tenth anniversary edition in 2022.

care to comment RJ ?
 
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What if someone on the Omega design team simply thought adding "IN 1965" was a nice update to the case back to compliment the aesthetic changes to the rest of the new watch? Maybe they are saying "Hey, it's a new watch and we have brought it up to modern specifications but its roots go all the way back to 1965 with it use by NASA"

While speculation is fun, I think sometimes we dig too deep into the weeds for answers there might not really be a good answer for.

Totally right. No one knows the reason for the change. I will say, I am much more put off by the "in 1965" than I would be "human". If they chose to add it on their own, I personally think it was the wrong decision and kinda cheeses up the watch a little. It's a small detail, but one I am not a fan of.
 
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Are there information available about the new box?
It surely looks like it will come in the small box as used for the "" 50 years NASA Snoopy award Speedmaster "" 👍
 
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Are there information available about the new box?

It is being said that it is similar to the new Snoopy box. I think that one has a loop and the books. So maybe no straps and medallion? I am curious about this as well. I am on of those that likes the big box, but I know that isn't a popular opinion.
 
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Thanks for this info. I'd scarcely heard of her, which is telling in itself. Looking forward to learning more.

I do like the domed hands -- hadn't noticed those from the renders. Definitely more striking. Are they any more or less legible?

Domed hands are awesome. It increases legibility/accuracy as the tip of the hand is much closer to dial. Reading time is more accurate even if you are looking at it from an angle. IWC uses bent tips on their pilots. Grand Seiko on some of their models. It is definitely functional and not purely cosmetic.
 
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Can anyone explain to me the concept of the double bevelled case back. I really don’t see much difference between the new and outgoing model. What am I supposed to be looking at? Thanks.
 
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Domed hands are awesome. It increases legibility/accuracy as the tip of the hand is much closer to dial. Reading time is more accurate even if you are looking at it from an angle. IWC uses bent tips on their pilots. Grand Seiko on some of their models. It is definitely functional and not purely cosmetic.

"Functionally" it's there to help the hands not interfere with the crystal (per Omega), but yes it does put the tip of the minute and chronograph seconds hand closer to the dial. Omega does this o older Speedmasters, and now they are bringing that back. Note that if you want this done, your watchmaker can do it for you - I do this often and it's not difficult to do...
 
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Looks like case in notched like the 50th for the bracelet?
 
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The white gold version's dial looks nice, however given the hands are of similar colour, the legibility on that model looks very poor. At least on the renders.

sgrossma sgrossma
Just wanted to add again that it is a real disappointment that they did not upgrade to a ceramic bezel. Otherwise, love it.
Agreed. They should have put a ceramic bezel on the saphire version (classy and shiny), whilst letting the aluminium one on the Hésalite (keepin' in real 'n tough).
 
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What about the bracelet guys, does anyone know if it is compatible with the previous model?
 
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"Functionally" it's there to help the hands not interfere with the crystal (per Omega), but yes it does put the tip of the minute and chronograph seconds hand closer to the dial. Omega does this o older Speedmasters, and now they are bringing that back. Note that if you want this done, your watchmaker can do it for you - I do this often and it's not difficult to do...

That's great to know. I may look into this for my FOIS when it comes time for a service.
 
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I bought a new full set 1861 to sit in the safe for 5-10 years
Money in the bank. Better in fact.

I picket up a discounted new FOIS recently with a similar plan but thought what the heck and have been wearing it on a different strap (to preserve the original). I would imagine it will cost me net zero after inflation if I flip it in 3-5 years even as lightly used, the price jumps in the past few years have been comical.
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Something which I'd like to know, but hasn't been clarified in RJ's article yet: is the hippocampus still protruding out from the caseback? So that the Seahorse rises higher than the rest of the caseback, and digs into the wrist?

Or does the middle of the new caseback have a sunken recess for hippocampus? Such that the smoother, flat part of the caseback (on which the NASA text is written) protects our wrists from the sharp lines of that seahorse?

Overall, very cool updates, and thanks to Fratello for the write-up. Bravo to Omega for bringing the Moonwatch into the 21st century with the movement upgrade. If the regular Hesalite caseback still has a protruding seahorse, I might hold out for a modern 3572.50 iteration, or try to get my hands on the new OEM sapphire sandwich caseback. I don't care much for viewing the movement; motivated solely by caseback comfort.
 
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"Human" would have been cool to me because I'm a Star Trek fan.

Should it be humanoid?
After all that green blooded devil Spok was actually half human😉
 
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Personally a bit disappointed to see "human" removed from the caseback, as it felt to me like it was a hat tip to the Artemis project's ambition to put both a man and a woman on the moon – this was supposed to be the Speedmaster for that future, wasn't it?
 
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Personed space missions, let's get it right.....
Don’t forget Laika ! ...
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It’s funny who on this forum consistently HAS to chime in with quips anytime the prospect of renaming for equality is even remotely raised, with the offered quips undoubtedly trading on the notion of “why should anyone care, grow up” - the irony lost on them.

When Omega first came out with "Flight-qualified by NASA for all human space missions", then changed to a release version with "Flight-qualified by NASA in 1965 for all manned space missions", it shouldn't be a surprise both elicited comments, especially within the context of the seemingly ever-encroaching western cancel culture. Based on snippets of information, feel free to draw your own conclusion about where other people stand in this forum regarding "renaming for equality" but understand people write things here with tongue in cheek. I form my own opinion that people who find it necessary to write about the importance of "renaming" for equality, and cancelling this or that, especially on a luxury watch forum of all places, probably don't suffer from real inequality themselves and aren't the same people that actually go out and do significant tangible things to improve equality across our planet. Gestures made via keyboard from your own chair require little effort but achieve little in terms of life-altering outcomes. Our country just changed one word in our national anthem to make it more inclusive, which IMHO was a good change, but the reality is the day-to-day lives of our remote indigenous people, those most affected by inequality, won't in any way be improved by a mere word change.
 
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