Eterna Matic

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I like this! ^ 馃憤
18kt? Do you happen to know date and movement ref. please?
 
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I like this! ^ 馃憤
18kt? Do you happen to know date and movement ref. please?
Unfortunately not 18k, but gold capped. I will sell it as soon as I find a good 18k example.

Case ref. says 1960. Movement caliber unknown to me.
 
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Does anyone have a ladies Kontiki (20) or other high end Eterna laying around, gathering dust? I'm looking for a Christmas present, so PM me please 馃榾

The wife has a Kontiki 10... But she gives it a lot of wrist time (even if she never sets the date). And of course it is April 馃槑

Really a cool design, I love the dramatic angles on the side of the case.
 
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The wife has a Kontiki 10... But she gives it a lot of wrist time (even if she never sets the date). And of course it is April 馃槑

Really a cool design, I love the dramatic angles on the side of the case.
That's a great piece. You do see them pop up online occasionally, but sellers insist on fetching top end gents watch prices for their ladies watches. Too bad.
 
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That's sharp. My pale one (not a 20, tho) says hello.
And mine non-matic Kontiki with date says hi 馃榾
 
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And mine non-matic Kontiki with date says hi 馃榾
That's hot! What's up with 'non-matic', and what's the serial range of them?
Here's my 472x (1962) yes-matic, that I've shared before of course. The case is as sharp as yours. What a shape huh.
 
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That's hot! What's up with 'non-matic', and what's the serial range of them?
Here's my 472x (1962) yes-matic, that I've shared before of course. The case is as sharp as yours. What a shape huh.
I actually don't know I did first believe the manual non-matic was the earliest kontikis but that is clearly not correct since most of them seems to appear 1963-1965.

This one is a 488' serial and the manual non-matic without date I sold here last year had a 500' serial number:


And yes the case on this one is even better than the recent one, probably sharpest shapes I've seen on these:
 
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I actually don't know I did first believe the manual non-matic was the earliest kontikis but that is clearly not correct since most of them seems to appear 1963-1965.

This one is a 488' serial and the manual non-matic without date I sold here last year had a 500' serial number:


And yes the case on this one is even better than the recent one, probably sharpest shapes I've seen on these:
Thanks, that's some food for thought!
I see there are some readily available through the regular channels, and apparently they come relatively cheap. Did both of your examples feature crowns without the 5 ball logo?
 
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Thanks, that's some food for thought!
I see there are some readily available through the regular channels, and apparently they come relatively cheap. Did both of your examples feature crowns without the 5 ball logo?
Yes both had the unsigned crown and blank caseback, but 5-ball logo in the crystal!
 
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Something I just noticed is that the non-date (from around -65) did have T swiss T dial while the date (from around 1963) have swiss only dial.

So I guess Eterna did start to mark their dials with T's somewhere in the 63-65 area?
 
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Something I just noticed is that the non-date (from around -65) did have T swiss T dial while the date (from around 1963) have swiss only dial.

So I guess Eterna did start to mark their dials with T's somewhere in the 63-65 area?

According to https://www.watchbooksonly.com/articles/watch-reviews/speedmasters-dials/

"The T indication only appeared in 1964 following a Swiss interior ministry ruling from October 1963 on radiation from luminous watch dials. It required indication of the presence of radioactive substances and set forth a table of radiation limits, which came into force on January 1, 1964.

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From July 1, 1964 manufacturers were only allowed to sell watches complying with the regulations governing the indication of tritium on the dial."
 
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That's hot! What's up with 'non-matic', and what's the serial range of them?
Here's my 472x (1962) yes-matic, that I've shared before of course. The case is as sharp as yours. What a shape huh.

Great pieces guys! I believe non-Matics are the handwound Kontikis.

 
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Yes both had the unsigned crown and blank caseback, but 5-ball logo in the crystal!
Great pieces guys! I believe non-Matics are the handwound Kontikis.
This makes a lot of sense.
 
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This makes a lot of sense.
Yeah I get why the manual wound versions dont have the 5-ball logo on the dial, crown etc since its not an (auto)matic.

But why no emblem on the caseback like all other Kontikis?
 
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Does anyone know what the period-correct crown is for the Kontiki first execution, and from whence (if anywhere) they can be sourced?