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eBay - Pre Moon 105.01265 Cal. 321 - Scam?

mzinski
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So I noticed this auction come up yesterday: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Spee...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649

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Quick auction, low starting price - why not try to bid on it? Well, eBay strangely didn't allow me to bid. It came up with an error that said I needed to have purchased an item from the seller within 10 days - weird. So I contacted the seller to ask if there were restrictions on the auction.

Well, jorani3 responded that he did have a restriction but if I emailed him he'd sell it to me for 1300USD. Wow! 1300USD, how could I pass that up - too good to be true!

I emailed him at [email protected] to inquire. Because who could pass up this deal. eBay seller with minimal transactions, high value watch for super cheap, located in Colombia - nothing raising red flags here.

Anyways, Pedro the engineer (as he told me), responded to say he'd send a PayPal invoice and send me the watch for 1300USD. I asked for photos with a precise time, 9:39, but unfortunately he could not provide them because the watch is with his wife in a different city. She's hard and won't send pics, he said.

Well, I post this story so those of you watching this auction know a bit about the seller and sellers tactics. And if you want to buy it now, cheap, feel free to contact Pedro...
 
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mancio
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Mmmmmmh......it is suspicious to say the least. But a Paypal invoice it is strange for a scammer....
 
ext1
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But he knows enough to cover up the serial in pictures?
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I say... doubtful...
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mzinski mzinski
Doubtful it's a scam?

Red flags. So I am thinking more scam. He also has zero feedback as a seller.
 
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ext1 ext1
But he knows enough to cover up the serial in pictures?
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I say... doubtful...
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So, as a newbie here on this forum, I wonder why it is important to cover the serial number in photographs. Could you let me know?
 
Mark020
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I can bid without restrictions
 
mzinski
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Mark020 Mark020
I can bid without restrictions
Try to bid on his other items (if you're the current high bidder).
 
Mark020
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Indeed: I won the max amount of auctions.
 
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So, as a newbie here on this forum, I wonder why it is important to cover the serial number in photographs. Could you let me know?
Well after 3 years on here I'm not entirely certain of all of the potential risks... 😟 However I know that (in order to obtain an Omega extract of the archives) all you need to give Omega is:
payment, the type of watch, serial number and case reference.

In theory, I suppose somebody could order an extract for your watch,........ If they did, your 'fakked'!😲
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mzinski
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I think it depends on the person. But I wouldn't expect a non-watch person to go through the effort to cover them up.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/why-do-some-sellers-insist-on-censoring-the-serial-numbers-on-vintage-watches.28817/
Interesting - so are you thinking this seller is legit?
But that begs the question, why would a person who knows enough to censor a serial sell a 105.012 for $1300 - especially when the auction has almost reached that price? If they know enough to censor a serial, you'd think they'd know the value of this watch.
 
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Interesting - so are you thinking this seller is legit?
But that begs the question, why would a person who knows enough to censor a serial sell a 105.012 for $1300 - especially when the auction has almost reached that price? If they know enough to censor a serial, you'd think they'd know the value of this watch.

No I'm saying, he knows enough to cover the serial, so he likely knows what he's doing -> scam.
 
Mark020
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Well if you look at all the items he has for sale: all pictures are different in look and feel. So: stolen
 
Poday
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I’m now the high bidder!

And yeah, not only does he know to obscure the serial, but he mentions the caliber, chrono hand resets to zero, and all the watches he has listed were serviced in July or August of this year? But he thinks it’s worth about $1300...
 
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Mark020 Mark020
Well if you look at all the items he has for sale: all pictures are different in look and feel. So: stolen

Yes, all five auction pictures have different backgrounds. Likely stolen pictures! Of course you’re protected by eBay, which normally rules in favor of the buyer. Question is it worth to time and hassle getting money back if it’s a scam?
 
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In theory, I suppose somebody could order an extract for your watch,........ If they did, your 'fakked'!😲

Why is this an issue exactly?
 
vienna
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Item is not available anymore.

Kind regards Max
 
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