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Do you like sets of watches? And IJN Seikosha

  1. Seiji May 25, 2022

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    Japanese Imperial Navy.
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    Kamikaze pilot watch
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    Captured on Iwo Jima.
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  2. Seiji May 25, 2022

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    Navy Airforce?
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  3. Seiji May 26, 2022

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    Hummm, I guess not the right collectables for this crowd :)
     
  4. pdxleaf ... May 26, 2022

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    It's a lot to absorb. Outside my experience but always nice to be challenged and learn something new.

    While pictures are worth a thousand words,in this case we could use more words. How'd you find this, how'd you get interested in this genre? I would guess these would be fairly few and don't appear often?

    Thanksfor sharing
     
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  5. MRC May 26, 2022

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    They are interesting, but if I don't have anything to add I keep schtum.

    Well except here & now....

    There is a side interest in aviation here, can you tell us anything about Japanese military pilots?
     
  6. LarryG not KennyG, not OG, just LarryG May 26, 2022

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    Waiting for you to post a Tensoku....
     
  7. Scarecrow Boat Burt Macklin, FBI May 26, 2022

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    As collectors, we all have our own emotions, biases, preferences, beliefs, and many other personal reasons that guide what we want to collect. War time related items are no exception to this and they draw up very specific emotions within us. There has been a lot of very well thought out discussion on this forum as to why people do and do not collect from certain sides of each war. If you aren't receiving the interest you thought you would, this could be why.
     
  8. Seiji May 26, 2022

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    Ah, if only I had one. The radiation levels are pretty high so cancer is my limit.
    Even the Seikosha 93 I have mixed feelings about holding due to high radiation. Japan declared defeat
    before this pilot had to fly his mission. This is the original silk rope.
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    But since we are talking about tensoku tokei for kuuhei. [​IMG]

    Was really nice watch. But I didn't buy it.
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  9. Seiji May 26, 2022

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    I don't know much about the pilots but there are some common misconceptions.

    Yukio Seki is consider one of the greatest Japanese fighter aces ever. There is a temple in Japan dedicated to the Kamikaze and this photograph is displayed there. I have not been to the temple myself. In his final mission, Seki did fly a mission as a Kamikaze pilot." Yukio Seki (関 行男, Seki Yukio, August 29, 1921 – October 25, 1944) was a Japanese naval aviator of the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War II. As a kamikaze pilot, Lieutenant Seki led one of the three fighter groups of the second official kamikaze attack in World War II (the first official attack was an unsuccessful attempt led by Yoshiyasu Kunō [ja] on October 21, 1944). Seki's final action took place on October 25, 1944, during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. He led a unit of five bomb-armed Mitsubishi Zero fighters, crash-diving his plane deliberately into the USS St. Lo's flight deck, being the first kamikazes to sink an enemy ship." --- Wikipedia.

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    There are many photos of Japanese pilots on the internet that are identified as Kamikaze, but most are wrong. True Kamikaze pilots has swords as they are Samurai. [​IMG]

    Most of the Japanese pilots wore the Seikosha 93 instrument clock version and Seikosha 100 instrument clock.
    These are surprisingly not uncommon.
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    However, the upside down Seikosha 93 pocket watch is a very very rare variant. The enamel dial is fired upside down because it was designed to be readable when held up with one hand. Also the instrument clock was set
    from the bottom of the clock and it too has the seconds at 12.
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  10. cvalue13 May 26, 2022

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    Yeah.

    Gives me the yucks.
     
  11. MRC May 26, 2022

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    Yes, we send out our young men to die for causes they know little of, but are ordered to. No disgrace to them.

    One of my grandmothers had been a child's nurse for a young man who died in WW1 in the Royal Flying Corps at the age of 18.
     
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  12. Caliber561 May 26, 2022

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    Just don't know much about these, but they do look like pretty neat watches. I have a lot of respect for people who are able to maintain a focused collection in a distinct vertical (or horizontal?), as my own collection is about as chaotic as can be.
     
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  13. Seiji May 26, 2022

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    Well, I would be the first to be surprised if someone consider what I do has any focus.
    I have some kind of disorder that makes me feel I have to have at minimum two of everything.
    It means I have to find two of the items at a time, its harder and cost me more... :)
    The law unfortunately prevents me from having twin wives (I'm sort of joking)

    For example:

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    And 12 WWI Russian, English, American, South American, Red12s Longines
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    Twice Awarded the "Most Excellent Order of the British Empire" !
    This was just dumb luck. I don't think I could find another person like that.
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  14. Seiji May 26, 2022

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    This day I was in heaven
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  15. Seiji May 27, 2022

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    Humm no one else with compulsions to have pairs.

    Four Seiko Tunas

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    Needed help from friends to pair up with my Longines military Israeli Defense Force
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    Decommission Papers Special Forces French Navy. Both bomb technicians.
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    Two Tru-Beats
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    Two Polar White Explorers
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    Two pairs of 28mm Weems
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    Two WWII Hanharts
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    Two Under Water Demolition Teams US Navy Seals canteens
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    Two seconds setting baby pilots 34mm.
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    This one's hard Two Officially recorded Worlds Oldest Longines (one belongs to a friend)
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    This one's weird... I have a 1968 Pan Am Stock certificate with my name and a 1958 "Pan Am" no crown guard GMT
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  16. cvalue13 May 27, 2022

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    Quite a collection! Need a docent
     
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  17. Vitezi May 27, 2022

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  19. cvalue13 May 27, 2022

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    “I own every kind of classic car. I even have doubles.”

     
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  20. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. May 27, 2022

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    @Seiji ... Just an amazing collection! Thanks for sharing....Seems very focused to me.
     
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