Constellation with unusual arabic numerals - EDIT: It has arrived!

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I agree that the price seems alright! I was mostly looking for a pie pan Constellation, but if one without cost almost half, it might be worth doing without! 😉

A nice pie-pan shouldn't cost double. Unless I am behind on prices lately, they can still be found for the price of this dome dial...maybe a couple hundred dollars more. 14381 and 14393 also can be found with the pie-pan dial and run a little less than the dog leg examples.

It looks like a nice watch though and would be worth buying. 😀
 
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A nice pie-pan shouldn't cost double. Unless I am behind on prices lately, they can still be found for the price of this dome dial...maybe a couple hundred dollars more. 14381 and 14393 also can be found with the pie-pan dial and run a little less than the dog leg examples.

It looks like a nice watch though and would be worth buying. 😀
Just about double.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...og-leg-ref-168-005-cal-564.54991/#post-670837
 
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A nice pie-pan shouldn't cost double. Unless I am behind on prices lately, they can still be found for the price of this dome dial...maybe a couple hundred dollars more. 14381 and 14393 also can be found with the pie-pan dial and run a little less than the dog leg examples.

It looks like a nice watch though and would be worth buying. 😀

I had a conversation with @tdn-dk recently about PP prices. I agree that you can still find them at around the price of the dome dialed one in this post, but I also know that they are sold in hours at roughly double that - as per @efauser's link 😀

It all boils down to where you sell them and who you are. An unknown seller on eBay with blurry pics? No chance that new collectors will take the plunge. But if you are a well-known entity on a forum well known for calling out fakes, relumes and allll those pitfalls? Well, that equates to dealer prices.
 
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I guess I'm a bit behind on prices then. 😟

www.constellation101.com? 😉

I really think that Constellations will be the first Omega dress watch to rocket in prices, and the first one to fly will be the dog-leg, pie pan dialled ones. The Chinese have known this for years, judging by their fakes.
 
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Well, it all depends all conditions, model and the furniture going with it.
Right now the most expensive connie pp should be
168.005
SS
PP
Onyx inserts (lumed and black painted are less in value)
Small marker next to date window.
Cross hair.
And finally, powered a 564 in 24 mil. serial #.
 
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Well, it all depends all conditions, model and the furniture going with it.
Right now the most expensive connie pp should be
168.005
SS
PP
Onyx inserts (lumed and black painted are less in value)
Small marker next to date window.
Cross hair.
And finally, powered a 564 in 24 mil. serial #.
Just curious, but why 564 over 551 (no date)? There are 10 with dates for every one without.

The rest makes perfect sense to me.
gatorcpa
 
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Just curious, but why 564 over 551 (no date)? There are 10 with dates for every one without.

The rest makes perfect sense to me.
gatorcpa
Hi Gator.
I am talking about the market trend, not personal preferences.
Me, myself, I like an old, hand winding 30 T2 SC

PS : Did I say 564 in 24 mil serial #
 
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Well, it all depends all conditions, model and the furniture going with it.
Right now the most expensive connie pp should be
168.005
SS
PP
Onyx inserts (lumed and black painted are less in value)
Small marker next to date window.
Cross hair.
And finally, powered a 564 in 24 mil. serial #.
I think I should add
Original crown with small logo.
Small star.
 
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Well, it all depends all conditions, model and the furniture going with it.
Right now the most expensive connie pp should be
168.005
SS
PP
Onyx inserts (lumed and black painted are less in value)
Small marker next to date window.
Cross hair.
And finally, powered a 564 in 24 mil. serial #.

Like this
 
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Just curious, but why 564 over 551 (no date)? There are 10 with dates for every one without.

The rest makes perfect sense to me.
gatorcpa

I am not certain whether or not a 551 is more "wanted" in the market. I prefer it by a wide margin 😀
 
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powered a 564 in 24 mil. serial #.
There are quite a few SS onyx with 564 and 25m serial:



And solid gold with serial as high as 28m. This one is 26m:

 
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www.constellation101.com? 😉

I really think that Constellations will be the first Omega dress watch to rocket in prices, and the first one to fly will be the dog-leg, pie pan dialled ones. The Chinese have known this for years, judging by their fakes.
SS pie-pan dog-legs have sold on OF for near $2K since 3-4 years ago. Condition first of course, beside features.
 
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There are quite a few SS onyx with 564 and 25m serial:



And solid gold with serial as high as 28m. This one is 26m:


This is good information to add to the Connie database 👍
 
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I think I should add
Original crown with small logo.
Small star.
Assuming you meant the Naiad star on the crown, is there one for the dog-leg Connies?

I've only seen it for the older Constellations:

 
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Hello!

I am on the lookout for a stainless steel Constellation, and in my search i have stumbled upon this rather nice cal. 564.

I am a bit unsure about the originality of the dial, as i haven't seen many with arabic numerals or with hands without any form of inlay or lume. But then again, there is not any lume or inlay on the hour markers, so perhaps its not a bad sign.
I am learning towards it being an original dial as the writing looks correct and crips, but i am by no means an expert in Constellations, so some input would be greatly appreciated! 😀

The ref. nr is 168.005 and should be from around 1969.
The pictures aren't the best, but i hope they suffice!

Thanks ever so much in advance! 😀

Best regards
Frederik
Saw a sweet Seamaster in a Chicago repair shop that also sells vintage.
 
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So, after some consideration i went ahead and took the plunge.
And i must say that it looks waaaaaay better in real life, than on the photos the seller provided!

The condition is lovely, with an almost perfect dial. The case, i suspect, is completely unpolished, as the lugs, various edges and the observatory on the caseback are crisp and sharp as razor blades. Unfortunately, there are some marks on the lower left lug.

The solid hands is to my liking as well, as they give the watch a very clean silver look, which distinguishes it from the typical onyx filled connies (i like those A LOT as well, dont get me wrong! 😉)

The fonts on the numeral are also quite interesting! Since the serial number dates it to 1969, i though it perhaps was a late 60s/start 70s thing, but after some digging, i have found similar fonts on dials from 1964, 1966 and 1967 as well.
So as @gatorcpa suggested earlier in this thread, it might be a UK thing, as both the 1966 and 1967 ones that i have found, are from UK catalogues.
Is there anyone who could confirm or dismiss this? Or perhaps one who would know, when Omegas started using these fonts? 😀

And another question:
Is it known when Omega stopped making the classic dogs leg Constellations like this one? Since this is from 1969 and the catalogues from the 1970 and start 1970s dont have any of those, i suspect that it was around that time 😀

Thanks for reading!

The dials with similar fonts (bottom pictures)
1st: from 1964
2rd: from 1966 - the same that gatorcpa found - with solid hands. UK catalogue.
3rd: from 1967 - it actually appears to be the exact same model with solid s/s hands as well, just without date and with the unusual arabic numerals all the way around. UK catalogue.
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