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Connie 2853 - redial or not redial?

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Hi everyone, I'm looking at this deluxe 2853 - not as a collector's piece, but as something I can feel alright wearing relatively often. In saying that, I don't want a beater either. I'm still training my eye for these things, so would appreciate some second opinions.

Firstly, is this a redial? Everything looks pretty good to me except the 'c' in 'automatic' and the 'o' in 'officially' look a little suspect. However, there are minute indicators missing/half gone which would indicate that it hasn't been repainted. And of course the seller says it's original 馃榾. This watch dates to 1958, (don't want to offend the Omega purists, just wanting some insight here) was it possible that quality controls were a little more loose then, and this weird 'c' could make it through? Or is the 'c' not weird at all?

Secondly, does the movement look tired, and are the 505s as reliable as the more notorious 5xx calibres? I wasn't expecting to be looking at a watch of this reference so don't know too much about the movement.

Pics below! Thanks as usual for the valuable insight.

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Do you like the case in the condition it is in?

Pictures seem to be extremely overprocessed/manipulated.


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Do you like the case in the condition it is in?

Pictures seem to be extremely overprocessed/manipulated.


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Hi Tex, the case seems very polished, which I'm not overly against at this point. I'd prefer one that's a bit sharper but if I wear it often, being 18ct, I believe it would wear down quite a lot anyway? And I'm not expecting it to be worth $100k in 50 years. I personally think it's a beautiful watch even with the case not in it's original condition. Although I don't want to lessen my opinion on the watch, I'm guessing the case would be considered absolute trash from a collector's standpoint?

I've asked for some additional photos in different lighting from the seller, one so I can be assured they have the actual watch and two so they're hopefully not as highly 'enhanced'.
 
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Additionally, the watch is listed on the seller's physical store' online shop (hope that makes sense - seller has a physical shop in the US) however, it's not listed on their Chrono24 page which had the escrow payment system. Does that seem a bit odd to anyone?
 
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Additionally, the watch is listed on the seller's physical store' online shop (hope that makes sense - seller has a physical shop in the US) however, it's not listed on their Chrono24 page which had the escrow payment system. Does that seem a bit odd to anyone?
No. They might not want to sell this watch internationally or they have a waiting list at the store?
 
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I stated no opinion on the case in my post.

But now we all know the case is AoK with the OP, so we wait for some good pictures of the dial. Fonts seem OK, I just want to see what the seller is trying to camouflage or not.
 
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I stated no opinion on the case in my post.

But now we all know the case is AoK with the OP, so we wait for some good pictures of the dial. Fonts seem OK, I just want to see what the seller is trying to camouflage or not.
Sorry Tex, I didn't mean to seem grouchy if I came across that way - just eager to hear a collector's opinion too 馃榾
 
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I stated no opinion on the case in my post.

But now we all know the case is AoK with the OP, so we wait for some good pictures of the dial. Fonts seem OK, I just want to see what the seller is trying to camouflage or not.
I like you would like to see more. It looks OK to me too, but....
 
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Sorry Tex, I didn't mean to seem grouchy if I came across that way - just eager to hear a collector's opinion too 馃榾


My post aimed at the Skunk, not you.馃槈
 
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My post aimed at the Skunk, not you.馃槈
My comment was directed towards the OP. As Bob Uecker would say, "Swing and a miss!" But we're all good.
 
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My comment was directed towards the OP. As Bob Uecker would say, "Swing and a miss!" But we're all good.
::facepalm1::

My bad
 
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Well regardless of whoever aimed at whom with what, additional photos should be coming in the next few days for your perusal 馃榿
 
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To me it appears to have a refinished dial. Up/down brush strokes on the center and slightly right justified (indexes on left just touching, but some right sitting under)

DON
 
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To me it appears to have a refinished dial. Up/down brush strokes on the center and slightly right justified (indexes on left just touching, but some right sitting under)

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Hmm yeah good eye, you're right. Will still see if additional photos can shed any light.
 
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As an aside, while we wait for photos, I'm not from America so not sure what the culture is like, but I'm Australia paying via bank transfer (wire transfer?) would be considered dodgy (or suspicious in non-Australian) for an online shop. To the Americans out there, is that standard in America to not have a secure checkout system?
 
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As an aside, while we wait for photos, I'm not from America so not sure what the culture is like, but I'm Australia paying via bank transfer (wire transfer?) would be considered dodgy (or suspicious in non-Australian) for an online shop. To the Americans out there, is that standard in America to not have a secure checkout system?
Absolutely no one in the United States would share bank account information with someone we don't know. It's just not done.

We get money orders issued by the United States Post Office, or a money order (teller check) issued by a bank or credit union. There are also services like TransferWise, Zelle, Paypal, and heck, even Wester Union will transfer money for you.

We just do not share bank information ever except in very specific circumstances that are highly regulated. The key information is disclosed on personal checks, but few people use those anymore.
 
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Yeah I thought it was odd. Ima just PayPal the guy if I end up buying it, or ask to have it uploaded onto Chrono24 and buy it through there. Thanks for the info 馃榾
 
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To me it appears to have a refinished dial. Up/down brush strokes on the center and slightly right justified (indexes on left just touching, but some right sitting under)

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Found another few to look at, and there seems to be some variance in where the indices lie relative to the painted markings - unless these are all redials 馃槣. If not directly touching, the spacing seems to vary.
 
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Redial - several minute hash marks are missing. Typical flaw of redials. And not a fan of the overpolished case also.
 
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