Can anyone offer help with this watch please

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I also have a prediction since my "spidey sense" and attacks of Deja Vu are usually semi-correct but I will keep it to myself and a few select PM's with pals for now 😁
 
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I also have a prediction since my "spidey sense" and attacks of Deja Vu are usually semi-correct but I will keep it to myself and a few select PM's with pals for now 😁

I want to know what it's all about. 😲
 
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I also have a prediction since my "spidey sense" and attacks of Deja Vu are usually semi-correct but I will keep it to myself and a few select PM's with pals for now 😁
eh? Please do share (PM if need be)

I have been thinking more about this watch. It seems unusual, and so must have been a special order watch, unless Omega were more free with their artistic creativity back then.

I took the opportunity to do a little homework about my Grandfather (who died when I was under the age of 3 so I have no living memory of).
In 1958, he made the Queen’s Honours list. His obituary states OBE but Google search simply states it was for Public Service in Sarawak.

So could this have been a gift to himself for doing well that year? I wonder... who knows!

He would have been living in Kuching I think at that time. I would not think that Omega would have a big presence in that area around that time?
 
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I second the other members here. Get it cleaned and serviced but kept in its original state. It looks stunning. You can spice things up by changing straps. Leather on Monday, steel bracelet on Tuesday, Nato on Wednesday...

Please, no NATOs on 1950's Constellations 😲
 
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He would have been living in Kuching I think at that time. I would not think that Omega would have a big presence in that area around that time?

Why don't you simply get an extract from Omega? Most travelers to that area likely transferred from Hong Kong or Manila and Omega had and still has a huge presence in both those places. Unless of course you already have the extract.
 
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Why don't you simply get an extract from Omega? Most travelers to that area likely transferred from Hong Kong or Manila and Omega had and still has a huge presence in both those places. Unless of course you already have the extract.
An ‘extract’ - can you expand on what that is? I am not familiar with the term.

I have no paperwork. Only the watch, and what I have learned in the last few days...

I have had the watch for around 8 years. I joined this forum in 2013 with the intention of learning more, but when Omega gave me their refurbishment estimate, I could not afford it at the time, so I parked the project, until now.
 
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Omega offers an “Extract of the Archives” for 120CHF. It includes information from their archives (which are not as comprehensive as one might think) about your watch, eg where it was bought.

https://www.omegawatches.com/customer-service/extract-of-the-archives
Hmm, that is £100 I could spend on the watch, where it really counts I guess.

The watch is 62 years old. It has waited this long to tell its story... it may have to wait a little longer!

I think the servicing bill might come to £500-700, so I’ll need all the funds for that.
 
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I think the servicing bill might come to £500-700.

I really hope not.
If a standard service is much more than half the lower figure then you are being ripped off.
Of course, if any major parts are required it will be a bit more.
 
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Did you get a photo of the inside of the case back? That's where the reference number is. That would answer a lot of questions.

I have been sent this photo of the case back.

the reference number is 2943.2.SC

Case 33mm (not 34mm as my cheap digital callipers suggested)
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I really hope not.
If a standard service is much more than half the lower figure then you are being ripped off.
Of course, if any major parts are required it will be a bit more.

So, I have been given a quote for my watch service. The details are lifted from an email, as follows:

"Omega Constellation.
Movement 16725365, circa 1958
Calibre 504.
Case ref ST2943.2.SC

Your Omega Constellation watch has now been examined and our estimate is as below.

It is our opinion that the dial, hands and bracelet appear to be original to the watch. You require to take into account that in the 1950’s, many watch companies, including Omega, had their dials, hands etc. manufactured and supplied to them by various and many third party companies. And typestyles could slightly vary depending on what company was used?
  1. The existing crown will be used.
  2. The hands will be cleaned as best possible.
  3. The dial left as is.
  4. And the acrylic with inverted cyclops, after being removed to be cleaned, will be replaced after polishing as best possible. Please be aware there still may be marks visible?
The cost to service as detailed below and including replacing movement parts showing signs of rust, will be £495.00 including Vat at 20%

This includes a 24-month vintage warranty for the work carried out and the estimated time for completion is aprx’ 8 working weeks’.

(And a complimentary Omega travelling case)

When servicing your Omega, the following work may be undertaken.

Some items may not be applicable to your specific watch.
  1. Open the case, remove the movement.
  2. Remove the hands and dial from the movement.
  3. Strip down the movement into its individual components.
  4. Check whether the watch parts function correctly, checking for rust or wear.
  5. Determine if any parts require replacing. Estimate to client if required.
  6. Wash the stripped-down movement in cleaning machine with specific baths.
  7. Assemble and lubricate the movement. (Several different grades of lubricant may be used when lubricating a watch)
  8. Adjust the movement in accordance with our quality criteria.
  9. Fit the dial and the hands.
  10. Bench test & final adjustment of the movement.
  11. Ultrasonic cleaning of the case and bracelet.
  12. Valeting/polishing of the case and the bracelet unless expressly requested not to by the client.
  13. Re-assemble the case.
  14. Close the case and check the water-resistance.
  15. Set the correct time on the watch, check the cleanliness and the functioning of the assembled watch.
  16. Bench test over 24 hours. If not satisfactory, the watch is returned to the technician for the necessary corrections.
  17. Fit the bracelet or strap and carry out a final check before returning the watch to you."

Does this seem all in order? Is it right that I should decline to have the case and bracelet polished? Would forum members suggest anything else? Am I better off replacing the acrylic lens altogether with a new one and keeping the original one with the inverted cyclops, or taking the chance on having it polished, and accepting that some marks will remain?

Thanks again for your advice.
 
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It is correct that you have to decline polishing it that´s your choice. And I agree about replacing the crystal with a new one, which will very much improve the appearence of the beautiful dial. Thank´s for sharing this with us. All the best. 😀
 
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What is the general consensus on case & bracelet polishing? If done by an expert, would it enhance a watch (and mine has clear signs of wear) or detract from its historical value?
 
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What is the general consensus on case & bracelet polishing? If done by an expert, would it enhance a watch (and mine has clear signs of wear) or detract from its historical value?
I think if you did a quick site search you would find your answer.