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stevec14
·Just got the call from my suburban NJ OB today and said yes. -Was told it's the 3rd one they've received. I put my name down Jan 8 2020.
Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White”
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Horoticus
·Congrats Jakemeister! I am curious which NJ OB you heard from, if you don't mind sharing. 👍
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GadgetGuy88
·Congrats Jakemeister! I am curious which NJ OB you heard from, if you don't mind sharing. 👍
OB at Short Hills.
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Horoticus
·Well, looks like we both put down a deposit on the same day at the same OB. Missed it by that much! 😀 Looking forward to seeing your pics!
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GadgetGuy88
·Well, looks like we both put down a deposit on the same day at the same OB. Missed it by that much! 😀 Looking forward to seeing your pics!
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Aconitase
·Well if it makes you feel any better, I didn’t put my name down on a Snoopy. So much for that…😉
I put my name on the list for the 321, no deposit, in March 2020 at Short Hills with no prior purchase history. Andrew and I had a nice chat and told me it would take 2 years which in my mind was bearable. I then visited a couple of months ago and found out my name was never added to the list in the first place. 🙁 I didn't request for the Snoopy either. I did some mental gymnastics and figured it would be at least 2026 before I could get a 321 based on numbers reported here, and that based on potential annual price increases, the grey market premium would be worth it.
And I have absolutely no regrets. It's everything I wanted in a Speedmaster.
Do you happen to know if Short Hills sells the black and white cordura Snoopy straps?
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GadgetGuy88
·I put my name on the list for the 321, no deposit, in March 2020 at Short Hills with no prior purchase history. Andrew and I had a nice chat and told me it would take 2 years which in my mind was bearable. I then visited a couple of months ago and found out my name was never added to the list in the first place. 🙁 I didn't request for the Snoopy either. I did some mental gymnastics and figured it would be at least 2026 before I could get a 321 based on numbers reported here, and that based on potential annual price increases, the premium would be worth it.
And I have absolutely no regrets. It's everything I wanted in a Speedmaster.
Do you happen to know if Short Hills sells the black and white cordura Snoopy straps?
That’s cool! Re the straps, Short Hills has always been good about ordering whatever you want.
I’ll take some pics after the watch arrives but I’m going to keep it in plastic for a while. A huge purchase, while doing home renovations.
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SSGMT
·I put my name on the list for the 321, no deposit, in March 2020 at Short Hills with no prior purchase history. Andrew and I had a nice chat and told me it would take 2 years which in my mind was bearable. I then visited a couple of months ago and found out my name was never added to the list in the first place. 🙁 I didn't request for the Snoopy either. I did some mental gymnastics and figured it would be at least 2026 before I could get a 321 based on numbers reported here, and that based on potential annual price increases, the premium would be worth it.
And I have absolutely no regrets. It's everything I wanted in a Speedmaster.
Do you happen to know if Short Hills sells the black and white cordura Snoopy straps?
Huge congratulations, beautiful piece, wear it in good health! Post pictures when you can.
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raclaims
·You’ll love it. It’s truly terrific
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Aconitase
·That’s cool! Re the straps, Short Hills has always been good about ordering whatever you want.
Thanks for the info! I'll have to stop by in the near future because these 19mm lugs are my kryptonite 🤬
I seem to have missed a beat: so you bought a SS321 on secondary market?
If so, big congrats: it continues to grow on me every day, and would be the one I keep if forced to sell all others.
Yes, sorry if that wasn't clear. Pics below! I was mainly recounting my experiences with the Short Hills boutique after hearing about Jakemeister's good news. I was always under the impression that getting my name on an Omega list would mean I would get the watch eventually. I'd like to think I did all the right things upon hearing about the 321, including going to a boutique (not AD) and asking for only the 321, and nothing else. The only things I didn't do was having purchase history and putting down a deposit. Then again, I suppose the concept of a "waitlist" doesn't really exist nowadays except for a few brands.
Alas, I waited these past almost 2 years for nothing when I found out my name wasn't on the list after all so I bit the bullet and paid the premium. The way I see it, I was told 3 years at least, and if Omega raises prices by average ~$1k each year, the premium would mean nothing. It really is a winner. Straight lugs, double sapphire, flat links, laser-etched logo, minimal text on back (a very VERY underrated element), 39mm. What more can you ask for?
S SSGMTHuge congratulations, beautiful piece, wear it in good health! Post pictures when you can.
Sure thing, here you go.
You’ll love it. It’s truly terrific
Big fan of your collection. Your Vacheron and Omega collection is legendary!
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cvalue13
·I bit the bullet and paid the premium. The way I see it, I was told 3 years at least, and if Omega raises prices by average ~$1k each year, the premium would mean nothing.
I think there are at least equal odds of having never gotten one at all directly from Omega, in which case the premium now makes even more sense.
And I for one believe it’s “worth” that (here making an emotional, not economic, statement).
Congrats!
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Eve
·I seem to have missed a beat: so you bought a SS321 on secondary market?
If so, big congrats: it continues to grow on me every day, and would be the one I keep if forced to sell all others.
Otherwise its a superb watch with insanely well done lume that glows like a torch at night.
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cvalue13
·How do you like the crown feel in comparison to the original? I had a feeling that the teeth on the modern one are too smooth, which makes the winding action not as satisfying as the griping on the vintage crown.
Otherwise its a superb watch with insanely well done lume that glows like a torch at night.
Unfortunately I’m unable to do a side-by-side comparison, not having an OG 321 on hand. 🤔
But I agree RE the grip and feel of the crown, though. It feels very “modern” (for lack of a better word) in fit/finish/feel, compared to many vintage sports crowns I’ve handled. I can’t say off hand, though, that I have handled any other modern watch that is any different in this respect. Perhaps there is some mechanical, materials, or other such reason for this “modern” approach to crowns?
Also, I’ve not been convinced that it’s all the crown itself I notice so much as the feel of the wind as well. Some vintage manuals have a very satisfying “crunch” about their winding action, not shared with maybe any of my modern watches.
That said, you’re not the first to raise it, as @M’Bob noticed the softness of the crown just from pictures in a separate post of mine
Comparing close-ups of mine and his doesn’t require labeling:
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M'Bob
·How do you like the crown feel in comparison to the original? I had a feeling that the teeth on the modern one are too smooth, which makes the winding action not as satisfying as the griping on the vintage crown.
Otherwise its a superb watch with insanely well done lume that glows like a torch at night.
You are right on target with your observations about the crown. If it’s not biting my skin, I ain’t satisfied…
Look at these teeth: ready to inflict damage they are so sharp:
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GadgetGuy88
·I received the 321 today. I’d take pictures but I left it with stickers in the coffin and what’s good about those sort of pictures? Nothing. It’s a pretty piece, no question about it.
-Not sure when I’ll start putting it into service. Prob depends on when/if I decide to sell my 1-owner (me) 1997 U series 16710 GMT Coke Master (which got a 2007 Luminova dial/hand set) and a 2012 replacement bezel insert and 2 RSC polishes. Ahh…the joys of making mistakes!
The box is still the old big Moonwatch one, and it comes with a booklet that’s about 28pp about the 321 mechanism and culminates in the 3861. The booklet covers both the platinum Speedy as well as this one. You also get the velcro strap and a black nato strap, too.
-Not sure when I’ll start putting it into service. Prob depends on when/if I decide to sell my 1-owner (me) 1997 U series 16710 GMT Coke Master (which got a 2007 Luminova dial/hand set) and a 2012 replacement bezel insert and 2 RSC polishes. Ahh…the joys of making mistakes!
The box is still the old big Moonwatch one, and it comes with a booklet that’s about 28pp about the 321 mechanism and culminates in the 3861. The booklet covers both the platinum Speedy as well as this one. You also get the velcro strap and a black nato strap, too.
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SSGMT
·Wearing mine tonight, such a beautifully executed watch.
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Caliber561
·Unfortunately I’m unable to do a side-by-side comparison, not having an OG 321 on hand. 🤔
But I agree RE the grip and feel of the crown, though. It feels very “modern” (for lack of a better word) in fit/finish/feel, compared to many vintage sports crowns I’ve handled. I can’t say off hand, though, that I have handled any other modern watch that is any different in this respect. Perhaps there is some mechanical, materials, or other such reason for this “modern” approach to crowns?
Also, I’ve not been convinced that it’s all the crown itself I notice so much as the feel of the wind as well. Some vintage manuals have a very satisfying “crunch” about their winding action, not shared with maybe any of my modern watches.
That said, you’re not the first to raise it, as @M’Bob noticed the softness of the crown just from pictures in a separate post of mine
Comparing close-ups of mine and his doesn’t require labeling:
I noticed this with my 1957 Railmaster as well. I'm pretty sure it's because Omega now polishes the crown's knurling as well as the outer surface, which knocks down the sharpness a tad. Vintage crowns have a bit of a matte surface throughout their knurled sections – I suspect this is probably just from how the crowns were originally crimped, and watchmakers just left it like that. When the switch to luxury happened, crowns probably became polished to maximize the 'shininess' of a timepiece.
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cvalue13
·I noticed this with my 1957 Railmaster as well. I'm pretty sure it's because Omega now polishes the crown's knurling as well as the outer surface, which knocks down the sharpness a tad. Vintage crowns have a bit of a matte surface throughout their knurled sections – I suspect this is probably just from how the crowns were originally crimped, and watchmakers just left it like that. When the switch to luxury happened, crowns probably became polished to maximize the 'shininess' of a timepiece.
Well put - that’s been something like my vague sense as well, but absent the words for it.
Interesting, in particular, in the case of the NEW321 given the other lengths taken to 1-for-1 the watch to vintage aesthetics.
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