Asking for some advice on my 1966 Rolex Submariner 5513

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Im still here, population 496 yeah these watches were made for people who worked with their hands for a living. This is what made the brand so famous but these second generation owners I dont know, they seem a bit precious. I spent the day splitting dry wood, I wonder what they did?

In the spirit of this you should perhaps do the absolute minimum to get it functioning and legible. Conserve it, don't restore it, don't worry about it, wear it. Sounds good to me.
 
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After reading through this - there’s some sound advice, which I agree with and actually retract my initial comment about splitting it for parts.

the non-bezel is a brilliant idea also.
 
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I very much like the RF Bob Ridley suggestion. This needs to go to a restoration expert. Its not going to be cheap, but if there is sentiment involved, worth the outlay. Otherwise carefully clean up the plexi as suggested, take better pics and put back on the bay.
 
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After reading through this - there’s some sound advice, which I agree with and actually retract my initial comment about splitting it for parts.

the non-bezel is a brilliant idea also.
I think this is a nice suggestion for the op. He does need to tone things down a little.
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Service it...put a new crystal on it, and wear the hell out of it.

It will be impossible to hurt it, as it looks like it’s been to hell and back...scores of times.
 
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After reading TRF comments, I don't blame the OP for getting second opinion here. As people said above, restore it and wear it. Looks like putting service parts from Rolex will be a cheaper alternative to sourcing original, period correct parts.
Good luck and don't forget to post some pictures after watch goes back to life.
 
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After reading TRF comments, I don't blame the OP for getting second opinion here. As people said above, restore it and wear it. Looks like putting service parts from Rolex will be a cheaper alternative to sourcing original, period correct parts.
Good luck and don't forget to post some pictures after watch goes back to life.
Thanks, yeah I started this thread when people started making comments about my hands on TRF. Plus I had a few people blow in and do that drop the mic comment thing they do like they are some all knowing mage and then leave the thread. Losers. One of them is here with the same username too! There is no escape from that clown.

So yeah, the watch is with a watch maker that I chose after some great advice via pm's (I guess people are worried about getting shot down by people like drop the mic and so they pm me instead). The dial is actually not too bad, the text is intact but the lume dots need to be restored. My watch maker is sending the dial to Hong Kong to have this done, it WILL NOT be wiped/refinished otherwise I would have told him to leave it. I just want this back to the state I saw it as a kid on my step dads wrist. NOT in its vintage state in 1965 (oh yeah the caseback states its from I.65) Movement is fine and I found the bezel and I already had a bracelet which might have been put on this watching during a service it had in 1986 (it had two, ever, 1978 and 1986).

Thanx
 
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Sounds like you have it sorted 👍
 
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What a wonderful watch.

Take it to a watchmaker and give him these instructions:

service the movement.

try to make the case watertight.

try not to replace parts but consider a new aftermarket crystal (for integrity) if polishing and refitting the original doesn’t work.

ensure not debris will fall off the dial and hands and re fit them untouched and unrestored.

if you want a bezel, you can distress a new one to match.

and remember some Rolex forums have a lot of opinionated people who don’t actually own a watch.
 
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Good decision.
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Make sure we see some photos when it's finished.
 
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Interesting/great watch.

My personal take in this situation would be that the watch earned these scars and scratches whilst strapped to my dads wrist and I'd want to strike a balance between preserving that and making it useable.

As SF said the main goal should be:

1. full movement service
2. thorough clean of the case no polishing or refinishing (especially of the caseback)
3. new gaskets and crystal to make it as waterproof as possible.

Then you're into the subjective areas:

4. Dial - I can see the calls for a relume but I'd be tempted to leave as is (unless you think much of the degradation occurred in storage). Ultimately I'd want to be looking down and seeing the same face my dad did in the last few years he wore it.
5. Hands - as above.
6. Bezel - if you've found the original, regardless of condition I'd use that. I do think Subs/GMTs look great with no bezel though.

Good luck. Show us the finished job.
 
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Interesting/great watch.

My personal take in this situation would be that the watch earned these scars and scratches whilst strapped to my dads wrist and I'd want to strike a balance between preserving that and making it useable.

As SF said the main goal should be:

1. full movement service
2. thorough clean of the case no polishing or refinishing (especially of the caseback)
3. new gaskets and crystal to make it as waterproof as possible.

Then you're into the subjective areas:

4. Dial - I can see the calls for a relume but I'd be tempted to leave as is (unless you think much of the degradation occurred in storage). Ultimately I'd want to be looking down and seeing the same face my dad did in the last few years he wore it.
5. Hands - as above.
6. Bezel - if you've found the original, regardless of condition I'd use that. I do think Subs/GMTs look great with no bezel though.

Good luck. Show us the finished job.
Cheers, yeah thats the point which seemed to be so hard to get across. My mere insistence on getting this restored inflamed some of the guys here and on TRF. So yeah I will leave it unpolished, as original as possible. The dial I want done because the dots are crumbling and a lot of the debris under the plexi was lume dust. So it needs to be stabilized. That one is unavoidable. The hands are not great but my watch maker said he has vintage 5513 hands and all of the parts required on hand, all are original rolex parts.
 
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Have you got someone for reluming the dial?

Some relume jobs look like they were done by putting yellow dye in some muck and applying it with a trowel. Some on the other hand look amazing, so it's worth taking your time choosing the right person for this and it may be worth having the dial relumed and movement serviced by different people.
 
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This is. Before and after of one of mine by one of the best guys in the business but he's uk based.

 
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This is. Before and after of one of mine by one of the best guys in the business but he's uk based.

who did the relume?
 
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glad to hear you found the parts. looking forward to seeing updates and the conclusion of this project
 
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I’m not certain if it’s been mentioned previously, but James Hyman (thealchemistrelumer on IG) is particularly skillful in re-luming dials and hands and he is located in the UK. Great watch by the way and hopefully you can minimize the use of replacement parts on the visible bits.

Good luck! Looking forward to seeing it finished! 👍