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·No, for me it's really about the watch itself. And I just really dig the Trilogy Speedy. In fact, if the prices stay depressed it may actually be within my reach someday. I'd be happy to have it!
Apollo 11 vs Trilogy Speedy
No, for me it's really about the watch itself. And I just really dig the Trilogy Speedy. In fact, if the prices stay depressed it may actually be within my reach someday. I'd be happy to have it!
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abrod520
·Asking price isn't always met though...
We'll see what happens to the 50, it may not appeal to the vintage watch nerds the way the Trilogy 2915 does, but it does have a wider appeal outside the Omega (and even watch nerd) circles. Does it appeal to more than 6,900 people? Who knows.... but we already know that less than 3,500 people wanted a Trilogy 2915.
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EricCsN
·Asking price isn't always met though...
We'll see what happens to the 50, it may not appeal to the vintage watch nerds the way the Trilogy 2915 does, but it does have a wider appeal outside the Omega (and even watch nerd) circles. Does it appeal to more than 6,900 people? Who knows.... but we already know that less than 3,500 people wanted a Trilogy 2915.
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janw23
·Asking price isn't always met though...
We'll see what happens to the 50, it may not appeal to the vintage watch nerds the way the Trilogy 2915 does, but it does have a wider appeal outside the Omega (and even watch nerd) circles. Does it appeal to more than 6,900 people? Who knows.... but we already know that less than 3,500 people wanted a Trilogy 2915.
The Trilogy Speedmaster was selling 30% above retail around time of release too. The hype of LE release time is when flippers sell to the most greater fools.
I tried to make the point earlier that discussing price as a measure of a watch's universal appeal is a misapprehension but people keep derailing this thread by bring it up. Supply-demand ratio at one point in time is not a measure of personal appeal, and it is not indicative of supply-demand 5 minutes from now, 5 years from now or when we are all six feet under - and especially in a Veblen good market.
Besides, OP did not ask about price; why do other people mention this - especially as a negative? If anything, if OP was torn between the two, then it would be a positive that he could get a better deal on a Trilogy watch precisely because it is undervalued relative to retail at present.
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Evitzee
·If anyone purports to know where the two 50th Anniversary models (or any watch) are going price wise in the future (1 mo, 1 yr, 10 yrs) is just blowing smoke. Some watches bolt out of the gate and fall flat, others go out like a turtle and then sprint to crazy values, yet others are 'steady as she goes'. Many factors go in to where any particular watches price will end up; quantity made and original price paid are only two and probably not the most important.
So I'll blow my smoke, I think the 50th steel/gold will stay fairly steady for a few years and then start moving upward in 5-7 years as the 60th anniversary rolls around. Whether Omega does a 60th, who knows, but it will never be as significant as the 50th, but the collectors (new and old) will then be on the lookout for the 50th as a semi-vintage watch to mark a significant past event.
Check back in 10 years.
So I'll blow my smoke, I think the 50th steel/gold will stay fairly steady for a few years and then start moving upward in 5-7 years as the 60th anniversary rolls around. Whether Omega does a 60th, who knows, but it will never be as significant as the 50th, but the collectors (new and old) will then be on the lookout for the 50th as a semi-vintage watch to mark a significant past event.
Check back in 10 years.
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janw23
·If anyone purports to know where the two 50th Anniversary models (or any watch) are going price wise in the future (1 mo, 1 yr, 10 yrs) is just blowing smoke. Some watches bolt out of the gate and fall flat, others go out like a turtle and then sprint to crazy values, yet others are 'steady as she goes'. Many factors go in to where any particular watches price will end up; quantity made and original price paid are only two and probably not the most important.
So I'll blow my smoke, I think the 50th steel/gold will stay fairly steady for a few years and then start moving upward in 5-7 years as the 60th anniversary rolls around. Whether Omega does a 60th, who knows, but it will never be as significant as the 50th, but the collectors (new and old) will then be on the lookout for the 50th as a semi-vintage watch to mark a significant past event.
Check back in 10 years.
*fans wafts of smoke away from his general direction*
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abrod520
·I offer a comparison in numbers with my speedmaster moon to mars (mine is at 6400 plus but final quantity made is unknown as it is a numbered not limited edition). So in terms of quantity they are quite similar with A11. In terms of being traded, they are regularly snapped up and are always much above MSRP if you care about prices
For the longest time they were really cheap, guess they've all found homes then.
The Trilogy Speedmaster was selling 30% above retail around time of release too. The hype of LE release time is when flippers sell to the most greater fools.
I tried to make the point earlier that discussing price as a measure of a watch's universal appeal is a misapprehension but people keep derailing this thread by bring it up. Supply-demand ratio at one point in time is not a measure of personal appeal, and it is not indicative of supply-demand 5 minutes from now, 5 years from now or when we are all six feet under - and especially in a Veblen good market.
Besides, OP did not ask about price; why do other people mention this - especially as a negative? If anything, if OP was torn between the two, then it would be a positive that he could get a better deal on a Trilogy watch precisely because it is undervalued relative to retail at present.
I do agree with your points and don't care much about price (I own a 50th, and I expect that at least in the near term its value will drop, and I don't care because I like it) but somebody brought it up so was responding to it.
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Blackdog
·The broad arrow is everything!
The design stood for 60 years. It will stand another 60.
But, without trying to be controversial here, this design didn't even make it to the 60s. The broad arrow hands and the steel bezel were already gone by 1959 with the reference 2998.
In the end, the design that really stood for more than 50 years was the one we know today as the Moonwatch.
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NGO1
·In the end, the design that really stood for more than 50 years was the one we know today as the Moonwatch.
Solid reasoning. I can't really argue to that.
Original board arrow sold for $400k at auction, last year.
We've always heard the "I wished I was born in [your fav century], so I can hoard a ton of [ your fav watch brand]"
I"m waiting for Rolex to re-release PaulNewman half a century a go, then I'll stop working on my homemade time-machine.
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Diomega
·There is nothing better than buying a cool item at a discount. Is Speedmaster Trilogy selling for 5,000$? Perfectly! Have time to buy at a good price. Up to 3000$ prices will not fall, but they can rise.
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Micmicmotorbike
·Not to open up a can of worms, but I would have liked the trilogy so much more w/o the fake patina'd lume.
My vote goes to the 50th.
My vote goes to the 50th.
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petay993
·I think the vintage lume was chosen to give that very accurate representation of the original piece which Omega strove for both dimensionally and visually.
Whilst generally not a lover of Fauxtina I think it is justified in this instance.
Whilst generally not a lover of Fauxtina I think it is justified in this instance.
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janw23
·Fauxtina >>>>>> Fauxbottom (or any bottom, for that matter)
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Carl
·I prefer the Trilogy actually. When the Apollo 11 LE was announced, I put down a deposit at the Omega Boutique without giving it a second thought. Even though I already owned the Trilogy Speedy. After a few days, I decided to cancel my option for the Apollo 11 and, instead put the deposit toward the new James Bond 007 Seamaster 300M LE. When it came out yesterday, I decided, once again, not the watch for me. So, I had already formulated a plan in my head, for the event I didn't want the James Bond Seamaster. And that was to get the FOIS, which I did get yesterday and absolutely love it. It is different enough from the Trilogy to be a perfect part of my collection. I might even end up liking it better! It might also be an option for you to consider. A friend of mine has both the FOIS and the Apollo 11 LE. While he is thrilled with the Apollo 11, he admits that the FOIS is his favorite. Having seen the Apollo 11 LE in real life, I can say it is beautiful, more so than I thought it would be. Nevertheless, I still prefer my Trilogy and the FOIS.
Hope this doesn't add more confusion to your decision!
Cheers,
Carl
Hope this doesn't add more confusion to your decision!
Cheers,
Carl
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·I have the Apollo 11 and never really thought much about the Trilogy Speedmaster, was offered it once last year but passed on it, getting something else instead. This thread piqued my interest so I looked around last night and found a near mint one at market price with all boxes and warranty card dated 2018, so still under Omega warranty. I have a few watches I'm trying to liquidate out of my collection but was having difficulty with one particular watch, had it consigned with the original dealer for a year with no success in turning it so I took it back earlier this year. Struck a deal with the Omega seller today to take that watch in trade plus a reasonable amount of cash for the Omega Trilogy, it will be here tomorrow and then I'll send my trade-in watch back to them. Makes the net Trilogy cost a little more than it should have but sometimes you have to figure a way out of a watch that is hard to sell on its own. Crazy hobby.
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64Wing
·I have the Apollo 11 and never really thought much about the Trilogy Speedmaster, was offered it once last year but passed on it, getting something else instead. This thread piqued my interest so I looked around last night and found a near mint one at market price with all boxes and warranty card dated 2018, so still under Omega warranty. I have a few watches I'm trying to liquidate out of my collection but was having difficulty with one particular watch, had it consigned with the original dealer for a year with no success in turning it so I took it back earlier this year. Struck a deal with the Omega seller today to take that watch in trade plus a reasonable amount of cash for the Omega Trilogy, it will be here tomorrow and then I'll send my trade-in watch back to them. Makes the net Trilogy cost a little more than it should have but sometimes you have to figure a way out of a watch that is hard to sell on its own. Crazy hobby.
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