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cicindela
··Steve @ ΩFI am not trying to be condescending, but seriously, it takes time and you have to be patient. Don't try to absorb everything at once.
Any Recommendations For Pricing Guides?
I am not trying to be condescending, but seriously, it takes time and you have to be patient. Don't try to absorb everything at once.
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LouS
··Mrs Nataf's Other Sonhelpful also to narrow the scope of your interest - otherwise the amount of info is overwhelming. Pick one or two models and then immerse yourself.
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Dablitzer
·Yes learning takes TIME . It is no different than saying , "I want to be rich but don't really want to work, can you tell me some method that I can make 10million in a week easily"
I am not trying to be condescending, but seriously, it takes time and you have to be patient. Don't try to absorb everything at once.
That's a good point. I get the impression were all guilty of impulse buying or trying to absorb things quickly..it's defiantly a generation thing..😉
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Ray916MN
·I have a large number of Ebay saved searches which I use to keep track of watches I'm interested in buying. Typically in addition to looking at completed Ebay listings I will watch auctions for at least a couple of months before trying to buy a watch on Ebay. Watch what goes on and try to figure out why some watches command bigger dollars than others and which sellers are watch mills, churning out franken watches or continually relisting "sold" watches. Watching Ebay enables you to get a feel for the market for a watch. Regular Internet searches for a watch you're interested in, can help you get a feel for the value of rare watches that infrequently come up for sale, but often the market for these pieces can amount to what buyers are around when a piece comes up for sale and what they are willing to pay at the moment.
Lastly, one of the best things about this forum is that it allows posting and discussion of open as well as closed Ebay listings. Most forums don't allow discussion of open Ebay listings. This is a unique opportunity and can be used to help accelerate an appreciation for pricing, but only if a member actually puts in the work required to develop their own appreciation for watch pricing. As Steve posted:
Lastly, one of the best things about this forum is that it allows posting and discussion of open as well as closed Ebay listings. Most forums don't allow discussion of open Ebay listings. This is a unique opportunity and can be used to help accelerate an appreciation for pricing, but only if a member actually puts in the work required to develop their own appreciation for watch pricing. As Steve posted:
Yes learning takes TIME . It is no different than saying , "I want to be rich but don't really want to work, can you tell me some method that I can make 10million in a week easily"
I am not trying to be condescending, but seriously, it takes time and you have to be patient. Don't try to absorb everything at once.
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kyle L
··GrasshopperMake an archive of the watches sold on ebay, and save the pictures from thr auctions. I started to do that but then I got lazy...😜
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ulackfocus
·Make an archive of the watches sold on ebay, and save the pictures from thr auctions. I started to do that but then I got lazy...😜
Same thing here - but now that I look at less of a variety it's not hard to keep an idea of price ranges in your head.
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agee
·This is supposed to be the "Bible" for any watch collector. When I first started to get serious about vintage watches I was advised to buy this book but to ignore the prices in it
I was told to read through the book to learn the various watch companies and to see different examples of their watches for future reference
I must say though I do not use the book very often.
I would advise anyone considering the book to save your money. I have learned more about watches on internet sites like Omega Forum and from talking to other collectors and dealers than I have from the watch guide
"Just sayin"
I was told to read through the book to learn the various watch companies and to see different examples of their watches for future reference
I must say though I do not use the book very often.
I would advise anyone considering the book to save your money. I have learned more about watches on internet sites like Omega Forum and from talking to other collectors and dealers than I have from the watch guide
"Just sayin"
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CanberraOmega
·I've read, and enjoyed, max Cutmore Collecting and Repairing Watches and Clocks.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorI was always told that any collectible was worth, "whatever someone else will pay for it". eBay completed listings are exactly that, what someone else paid for the item. However, ULF is correct in that you have to account for shill bids, transactions that didn't consummate, etc. So, the larger the sample size, the better the data. Just like they told me in Statistics class back at UF, back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth.
While I'll agree that the prices in these "catalogs" are useless in determining current value in the ever fluid world of watch collecting, I would say there is some usage in looking at the prices as relative to each other rather than the market as a whole. Thus, if Cooksey-Shugart shows a "value" of $500 for a non pie-pan Constellation and $600 for pie-pan, then this tells me that there is a relative premium of about 15% to 20% for that dial (in average condition, of course).
The art of the deal here is the starting price for the Constellation. That is always changing.
gatorcpa
While I'll agree that the prices in these "catalogs" are useless in determining current value in the ever fluid world of watch collecting, I would say there is some usage in looking at the prices as relative to each other rather than the market as a whole. Thus, if Cooksey-Shugart shows a "value" of $500 for a non pie-pan Constellation and $600 for pie-pan, then this tells me that there is a relative premium of about 15% to 20% for that dial (in average condition, of course).
The art of the deal here is the starting price for the Constellation. That is always changing.
gatorcpa
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoThose of us who have monitored the vintage omega market very closely over the past few years and have looked at literally thousands of auction results sometimes cannot agree on the price of the item - best to hope for is a range and then account for other factors like condition, originality, seller reputation, location, etc. There is no special sauce and certainly no special book - experience and lots of time will get you in the general ballpark. A forum like this one will be of help but those of us who might give a price range will also be colored by what we like, what our priorities are etc.
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