Another thread about winding from a first time owner.

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What @Dan S said, and think of this: at some point during the wearing of your watch, especially since many wind both directions of rotor movement, the watch will be fully wound and the bridle will slip. There is nothing you can do to stop this, and it's designed to do this. Turning the crown a large number of times to ensure the watch is fully wound is quite common and hurts nothing.
 
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Secondly, after its stopped put the watch back on and wear it for a fixed period of time without exceeding 8 hours(if possible). Do not manually wind the watch for any reason. Allow it to only wind up by itself on the wrist.
At this point, setting the time correctly on the watch is necessary for this experiment.
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How good is the time-keeping during this period when you are trying to charge it with only the auto-winder from a dead stop? Or do you even bother setting the time and just wear the watch for 8 hours with the incorrect time until it is charged? Personally, it seems simpler to wind it up, set the time, then forget about it, rather than set it, put it on and wear it to have the auto-windier charge it, then realize later in the day it is a minute slow and have to correct it.

But that's me.
 
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How good is the time-keeping during this period when you are trying to charge it with only the auto-winder from a dead stop? Or do you even bother setting the time and just wear the watch for 8 hours with the incorrect time until it is charged? Personally, it seems simpler to wind it up, set the time, then forget about it, rather than set it, put it on and wear it to have the auto-windier charge it, then realize later in the day it is a minute slow and have to correct it.

But that's me.

A good question Donn

I've checked timekeeping as well and to my surprise I can barely percieve any variation from normal if at all.
I don't know why, but that's just the way it's worked out with my best Rolex watches anyway. They all were and currently are outstanding timekeepers.
Isochronism doesn't seem to enter into it in practical terms whilst on the wrist.
If that's where you're heading?
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It's all part of the experiment to establish time on the wrist from the beginning and power reserve until it stops.
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That's certainly your choice, but not consistent with how manufacturers expect their watches to be used. Here are the official instructions for Rolex and Omega, for example.

https://www.rolex.com/en-us/watch-care-and-service/caring-for-your-rolex.html


And the following from Omega FAQs.
I certainly understand the common recommendations. It would be inconvenient to advise someone to wear a watch for several minutes before setting it. This is just part of my ocd. If I ever saw compelling evidence that allowing the rotor to initially wind is more detrimental to the movement than hand winding, I would change my routine. To elaborate on this some more, another thing that factors into this decision is putting wear on the clasp and the locking tang by taking it off more often. (I also depress the spring pushers every time when closing the clasp to reduce friction)
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Uhm, so how do they start running if you put one on your wrist again?馃憥
Don鈥檛 understand. Talking about automatics
 
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This is the absolutely first time I've ever hear this and no watchmaker ever has told not to do this nor replaced a crown tube or a winding stem in the past 30 years.

I watched the video on "how to wind your watch" and while the person in the video used his thumb and forefinger, he never said you had to do it.

Now, mind, I don't disagree with taking the watch off to wind it; in fact, I take my watch off to take a shower and wind it (for a manual winder) before I put it back on.

But using one finger? Sorry, I completely and totally disagree, and 30 years and probably 30 watches agree with me.

Nobody has ever said thou shalt always use the thumb and finger winding method.
To suggest that is the case is disingenious.

Anyway, it's well explained on the IWC website.
Feel free to take it up officially with IWC and let us know how you get on馃槈
Whether one subscribes to their reasoning or not is a strictly personal choice and one watchmakers view is potentially as different to any other's, just as it is with economists馃憤
I can only assume that the position that IWC has adopted is to put forward a best practice scenario.

I would add that I personally can potentially see problems with continual and unnessary sideways torque being applied in a habitual manner onto the Winding crown of a manual winding watch movement. At the very least in respect to excessive wear on the seal, thus causing a groove to one side, simply because of habitual one fingered winding technique. I don't think any further explanation is needed as to the problems that could cause in time only to find out the hard way on a watch that typically has a low water resistance to start with.馃檨
 
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The main reason I avoid hand winding autos is simply that they typically (maybe always?) have winding mechanisms that aren鈥檛 built for this, and would accelerate wear.

This is a common belief spread on watch forums, but is not really true.
 
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I would add that I personally can potentially see problems with continual and unnessary sideways torque being applied in a habitual manner onto the Winding crown of a manual winding watch movement. At the very least in respect to excessive wear on the seal, thus causing a groove to one side, simply because of habitual one fingered winding technique. I don't think any further explanation is needed as to the problems that could cause in time only to find out the hard way on a watch that typically has a low water resistance to start with.馃檨
I can personally see pixies and fairies. Doesn't make them real.

I repeat, dozens of watches, 30 years of experience, never ever ever have I had a grooved crown tube or any other issue.

You can choose to do whatever you want, but I would appreciate you at least acknowledging my experience instead of insinuating that I am some sort of idiot or liar.
 
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I can personally see pixies and fairies. Doesn't make them real.

I repeat, dozens of watches, 30 years of experience, never ever ever have I had a grooved crown tube or any other issue.

You can choose to do whatever you want, but I would appreciate you at least acknowledging my experience instead of insinuating that I am some sort of idiot or liar.

Seeing as you mentioned it.
I never called or implied you are a liar.
Nor did I ever mention anything about grooved crown tubes.
To be clear, that's the second time in a row that you have taken my comments completely out of context to suit the narrative that you have swirling around in your head.

As to the other bit, you said best and you know what they say about arguing with an idiot馃憤
Something about draging you down to their level and beating you around the head with their experience馃憥 That's ok, younglings like yourself are entitled to flex your muscles馃槈

We are all free to chose to do what we want with our own property馃槈
Carry on young fella馃檮

For the record. I have never seen pixies and fairies.
Do feel free to snap some pics of them next time you're out in the garden馃槖
 
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Don鈥檛 understand. Talking about automatics

me too, I was curious whether you shake it to get it running after you let it run down and put it on your wrist a few days later or just wear it without shaking/stirring (Bond pun intended) the movement?

Furthermore if automatic watches aren't meant to be handwound why do manufacturers have this possibility on their watches and most advise it to have the movement start running again?
 
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This is a common belief spread on watch forums, but is not really true.

I tend to subscribe to the matlt principal and reflect upon the comments of a highly respected Rolex watchmaker(on another forum) who has clearly stated that excessive manual winding is the cause of excessive and premature wear of the components that come into play when manually winding Rolex movements.
I'm not going to argue about that as I'm not a watchmaker.
As I said, the person that made the comment was highly esteemed in their field, so prudence dictates that I have to bow to their experience.
It does stand to reason that if it's never used, then it can't wear out. At the other end of the spectrum if it's used to extreme, then it could possibly wear out before it's time.
Of course, that's not to say the parts can't be repaired or easily replaced by someone that's suitably qualified and at their sole discression.
With that being said, I find manual winding to be a fairly redundant task on a modern Auto winding movement unless one suspects there's something going on with the Auto winding mechanism. I do find that it's quite beneficial as a diagnostic that I can do pro-actively at home before troubling a busy watchmaker with it馃憥
Alternately I may chose to put a few winds into a stopped Auto watch(if the facility exhists) just to help kick start it and to have it run predictably until it's wound up by itself on the wrist. But this has been outlined as a common practice previously by others as well and not found to be problematic in practical terms馃憤

To each their own I suppose馃榾
 
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I tend to subscribe to the matlt principal and reflect upon the comments of a highly respected Rolex watchmaker(on another forum) who has clearly stated that excessive manual winding is the cause of excessive and premature wear of the components that come into play when manually winding Rolex movements.

If the statement I was responding to had made the same assertion as your bolded text above, I would agree with him completely. However it didn't.

D Duckie
I'm not going to argue about that as I'm not a watchmaker.

That my friend is 100% clear.
 
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me too, I was curious whether you shake it to get it running after you let it run down and put it on your wrist a few days later or just wear it without shaking/stirring (Bond pun intended) the movement?

Furthermore if automatic watches aren't meant to be handwound why do manufacturers have this possibility on their watches and most advise it to have the movement start running again?

It's a matter of modern convenience and being seen to provide another feature.
Also, better timekeeping is achievable with some power wound into the mainspring due to better isochronism. I'm sure Al can attest to this馃憤
Those of us that had Seikos back in the day did just fine without any manual winding capability.
My SKX is still a functional testament to the day to day redundancy of manual winding.

In some ways, a lack of a manual winding capability is actually a forcing function in that if the watch stops due to needing a service it won't be causing any unnecessary damage until it's serviced馃憤
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