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A little worried about getting a replica...
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eldiano84
·I'm scratching my head here because honestly If I wanted to sell a watch on ebay I have to get certified by them and do a course, so I'm wondering how people are still getting fakes left and right to this day to be honest, i'm just curious.
It's a blessing paypal and ebay went off their separate ways but I think it's a bit more difficult to buy counterfeit merchandise. Amazon on the other hand...
It's a blessing paypal and ebay went off their separate ways but I think it's a bit more difficult to buy counterfeit merchandise. Amazon on the other hand...
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ErichPryde
·I'm scratching my head here because honestly If I wanted to sell a watch on ebay I have to get certified by them and do a course, so I'm wondering how people are still getting fakes left and right to this day to be honest, i'm just curious.
It's a blessing paypal and ebay went off their separate ways but I think it's a bit more difficult to buy counterfeit merchandise. Amazon on the other hand...
Speaking of Amazon, I got some fake Okatsune garden shears from there. It's kind of fantastic just what can be fake on Amazon.
Regarding eBay- I don't think there's actually a storm of people getting fake merchandise, I think it's the concern and fear that they COULD receive it based upon exactly that sort of thing happening in the past. Not saying it never happens either, as I can't know that for certain.
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mjb
·If I wanted to sell a watch on ebay I have to get certified by them and do a course
What does the "certification" entail? What kind of course? I'd not heard of either of these.
I agree with @ErichPryde and yourself that watch fakes through eBay are probably less common (especially with the "authentication") than before, and some fears are overblown. But it's a lot of money, and I want to be as careful as reasonably possible.
I did once unknowingly buy a fake through eBay, but I had a vibe about it, and it was obvious once we popped off the back. The seller claimed not to know it was fake and refunded my money in order to maintain their feedback rating. But it was still a stressful hassle.
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Annapolis
·What does the "certification" entail? What kind of course? I'd not heard of either of these.
I agree with @ErichPryde and yourself that watch fakes through eBay are probably less common (especially with the "authentication") than before, and some fears are overblown. But it's a lot of money, and I want to be as careful as reasonably possible.
I did once unknowingly buy a fake through eBay, but I had a vibe about it, and it was obvious once we popped off the back. The seller claimed not to know it was fake and refunded my money in order to maintain their feedback rating. But it was still a stressful hassle.
Yeah, I’ve sold a few watches on eBay (nothing over 2k, granted) and have never had to take a certification course—is this something new? It was as simple as listing anything else. I’ve never bought a fake there, but have seen many fakes listed (which I always report) and have heard plenty of stories. Honestly, the issues I’ve personally had on eBay have all involved buyers—ones who didn’t understand what it means to own a mechanical watch, for instance, and so demanded a return once they learned that there was more to it than there is with a quartz. Or ones who didn’t know what 35mm looks/feels like, etc. (I’ve had even worse experiences selling other items, like antiquarian books and basketball cards. At this point I use eBay only when there’s no other practical venue to use for what I want to do.)
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mjb
·The model you want is not unobtainable. If you put your name down you should get it in a month or two.
My local AD, part of a regional chain, said that these are very hard to get, they never have them in stock, don't have any in stock and don't know when they'll have one in stock.
I also put my name in on the Omega website, and discovered that I had already done that last year. And still no word.
Not unexpected, but annoying nonetheless.
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Evitzee
·There is always that RED one on our own For Sale forum.
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··Bye bye miss american pieYeah, I’ve sold a few watches on eBay (nothing over 2k, granted) and have never had to take a certification course—is this something new? It was as simple as listing anything else. I’ve never bought a fake there, but have seen many fakes listed (which I always report) and have heard plenty of stories. Honestly, the issues I’ve personally had on eBay have all involved buyers—ones who didn’t understand what it means to own a mechanical watch, for instance, and so demanded a return once they learned that there was more to it than there is with a quartz. Or ones who didn’t know what 35mm looks/feels like, etc. (I’ve had even worse experiences selling other items, like antiquarian books and basketball cards. At this point I use eBay only when there’s no other practical venue to use for what I want to do.)
Similar experience but on Chrono24. I sold a 20k watch and as soon as it arrived the buyer emailed me to say it wouldn't wind no matter how long he shook it.
He kept the watch after I explained why. It's difficult for me to understand how someone can spend 20k on a watch and not understand that it is manual winding.
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ErichPryde
·Yeah, I’ve sold a few watches on eBay (nothing over 2k, granted) and have never had to take a certification course—is this something new? It was as simple as listing anything else. I’ve never bought a fake there, but have seen many fakes listed (which I always report) and have heard plenty of stories. Honestly, the issues I’ve personally had on eBay have all involved buyers—ones who didn’t understand what it means to own a mechanical watch, for instance, and so demanded a return once they learned that there was more to it than there is with a quartz. Or ones who didn’t know what 35mm looks/feels like, etc. (I’ve had even worse experiences selling other items, like antiquarian books and basketball cards. At this point I use eBay only when there’s no other practical venue to use for what I want to do.)
These sorts of stories always baffle me because I'm the sort of buyer that (typically) wants to be as informed as possible. ESPECIALLY when I'm buying something that is just EXPONENTIALLY more expensive *relative* to another item that does the same task that can be had for peanut money.
I have a lot of difficulty putting myself in these buyer's shoes, and our "return everything" sort of societal movement maybe has encouraged this lack of research.
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ErichPryde
·Yeah, we're in touch... it sure would be nice to try it on first though, and see the red in person.
Can you at least try on a watch with exact body/face and lug-to-lug sizing, or is the issue you just need to know how the color will look?
I've also got to say- how often does settling for second best work out for you? If you really want blue (although I know red was your second pick) and settle, will you stay happy?
On the plus side at least you'll have a highly saleable and hard to find watch, so maybe it will get you one step closer if you wind up not being happy with red.
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Doc Olives
·The Red and Blue variants are available to purchase on bracelet on the Mayors website currently. Red ships in 2 days, Blue in a few weeks. Green unavailable. They are out there, but your local AD if not high enough in volume may not get them for a while.
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eldiano84
·What does the "certification" entail? What kind of course? I'd not heard of either of these.
I agree with @ErichPryde and yourself that watch fakes through eBay are probably less common (especially with the "authentication") than before, and some fears are overblown. But it's a lot of money, and I want to be as careful as reasonably possible.
I did once unknowingly buy a fake through eBay, but I had a vibe about it, and it was obvious once we popped off the back. The seller claimed not to know it was fake and refunded my money in order to maintain their feedback rating. But it was still a stressful hassle.
It’s a third party authenticity guarantee done by Stoll & Co, meaning they check your watch before you sell it, it’s recent for luxury watches, trading cards, jewelry but if it’s “authentic” it will have a blue check mark in their listing.
https://pages.ebay.com/authenticity-guarantee-watches/
Anything more than $10,000 dolllars will have your funds go through escrow.com where ebay gives the buyer 7 days to inspect the watch for defects or customer satisfaction and after 7 days they release the funds to the seller
https://pages.ebay.com/escrow/
I just sell on ebay as a hobby but I Was thinking of just selling one of my duplicate watches just in case and all these extra stuff from ebay popped all things considered, especially since I’m trying out the top rated plus for a bit to see if it’s worth the benefits which feel that it doesn’t for the moment. Haha.
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mjb
·Can you at least try on a watch with exact body/face and lug-to-lug sizing, or is the issue you just need to know how the color will look?
Size. The 42mm Speedmaster was just a smidgen big for me, so I was hoping that these 40mm versions would be better, but it seems that the lug-to-lug is slightly longer, which kills any advantage there. I'm not aware of any watch that has the same dimensions as these '57 editions.
I've also got to say- how often does settling for second best work out for you? If you really want blue (although I know red was your second pick) and settle, will you stay happy?
LOL, good point. Hard to say, since I can't see either of them in person!
It’s a third party authenticity...
OK, it's a terminology thing then. It's not certification, it's authenticity. Got it. Thanks.
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ErichPryde
·Size. The 42mm Speedmaster was just a smidgen big for me, so I was hoping that these 40mm versions would be better, but it seems that the lug-to-lug is slightly longer, which kills any advantage there. I'm not aware of any watch that has the same dimensions as these '57 editions.
It's kind of crazy how many factors come into play if you are trying to find exactly the right size watch for your wrist. Even the bezel/face ratio can utterly change watch feel in two watches that have otherwise identical sizes.
I wish you the best of luck, don't settle!
