A Case of Midos

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Technically, it is a Borgel case. Taubert just owned the design and name. You can call it Borgel and only be referring to the design instead of the brand name.

As far as I know, what is referred to as a Borgel case incorporates some other features than these have, but I might be off.


Now on to adding “Mido” to my eBay alerts...

On that note, I'd like to say that I hope it was someone from OF who bought the fine Multifort I linked to previously 😀
 
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Technically, it is a Borgel case. Taubert just owned the design and name. You can call it Borgel and only be referring to the design instead of the brand name.

I don't think that this is fully correct, given the cork-sealing crown system used by Mido (Patek and others) in these "FB" watches. In other words, it's doesn't simply boil down to the technicality that Taubert owned the right to produce Borgel-designed cases, but rather that they also patented (in 1928) and added a very important component that was not present in the original Borgel design.

They also designed other cases that bear the "FB" mark.
 
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Hi

If you have not guessed yet “FB” cases are one of If not his favorite case ..... also extra hint check out his avatar !


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I don't think that this is fully correct, given the cork-sealing crown system used by Mido (Patek and others) in these "FB" watches. In other words, it's doesn't simply boil down to the technicality that Taubert owned the right to produce Borgel-designed cases, but rather that they also patented (in 1928) and added a very important component that was not present in the original Borgel design.

They also designed other cases that bear the "FB" mark.
 
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Technically, it is a Borgel case. Taubert just owned the design and name. You can call it Borgel and only be referring to the design instead of the brand name.
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Taubert also filed the patent for the decagonal screw back which made those cases a huge success in the 1930s (along with the cork seal Tony mentioned) and gave them their distinctive look. So they didn’t just buy out a Borgel design.
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Mido with a fresh strap says hi



Also, a little embarrassed to ask: picked up this strap signed 'Sandoz'. Sandoz, or Henri Sandoz is as you may know, a popular vintage brand back then. i am wondering if this strap is legit? And it cracks a little when bent: I am definitely not an expert on leather but could this be indeed leather?
 
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Nice watch. The strap is most definitely a vintage crocodile skin strap. The reason it’s cracking is probably because old leather dries up.
You should probably get a good quality leather treatment cream designed for ladies hand bags or fine accessories (not shoes) to moisturize the strap, wait a few days and reapply.
Better remove the strap from the watch when you do that as you don’t want to get any cream near that watch.
 
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Nice watch. The strap is most definitely a vintage crocodile skin strap. The reason it’s cracking is probably because old leather dries up.
You should probably get a good quality leather treatment cream designed for ladies hand bags or fine accessories (not shoes) to moisturize the strap, wait a few days and reapply.
Better remove the strap from the watch when you do that as you don’t want to get any cream near that watch.
Cheers! If you notice the lower lug area, there is some white area on the strap, that is where the crack (and peeling off) occurs. Initially I thought it is just fake leather revealing its stuff underneath. But now it does seem like it is real leather. As for whether it is a legit vintage Sandoz, I am still looking around.

Would be travelling around so I won't be able to get that special leather cream...hmmm
 
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The strap may be past the point of safe use. Don't lose the watch.
 
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Beautiful thread, thanks for sharing.
Regarding serial numbers and years of production, I can provide some data collected over the years by the passionates of italian forum Orologi & Passioni. These data have been officially confirmed by Mido:

(serial number - year of production)

382.xxx 1934
444.xxx 1936
478.xxx 1936 ±1
525.352 1940
610.xxx 1940 ±1
673.809 1942
753.xxx 1943
759xxx 1943
810.xxx 1944
885.xxx 1945
973623 1947
987657 1947
1134.xxx 1949
1248775 1950
1454221 1952
1644xxx 1954
1852xxx 1956
2.089.629 1957

Here you have the link to the original italian topic:

http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=43606038

Cheers, Alessandro
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Beautiful thread, thanks for sharing.
Regarding serial numbers and years of production, I can provide some data collected over the years by the passionates of italian forum Orologi & Passioni. These data have been officially confirmed by Mido:

(serial number - year of production)

382.xxx 1934
444.xxx 1936
478.xxx 1936 ±1
525.352 1940
610.xxx 1940 ±1
673.809 1942
753.xxx 1943
759xxx 1943
810.xxx 1944
885.xxx 1945
973623 1947
987657 1947
1134.xxx 1949
1248775 1950
1454221 1952
1644xxx 1954
1852xxx 1956
2.089.629 1957

Here you have the link to the original italian topic:

http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=43606038

Cheers, Alessandro

Cheers, thanks for that 👍

Do you have any idea why my MCC has got a four digit serial number? It's a match between inside lid and the one between the lugs, but only four digits..!
 
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Cheers, thanks for that 👍

Do you have any idea why my MCC has got a four digit serial number? It's a match between inside lid and the one between the lugs, but only four digits..!

Exactly: four digit serial numbers between lugs have to be the same than last four numbers of the serial you find inside the caseback. If they match, caseback is original for that particular example. 😉
 
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Exactly: four digit serial numbers between lugs have to be the same than last four numbers of the serial you find inside the caseback. If they match, caseback is original for that particular example. 😉

I don't think you quite understood my somewhat badly worded post - there are only four digits inside the caseback too! 😉
 
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I don't think you quite understood my somewhat badly worded post - there are only four digits inside the caseback too! 😉

Well, effectively I think I didn't understand myself! between lugs of mine there are six numbers, not four, and the same six inside the caseback.
So I don't know why you have only four -if they match with caseback, is in any case good news 😉
 
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Well, on my Multifort Powerwind there are four digits between the lugs and a seven digit number (production year about 1953), but as there are only four digits both places on the Multi-Centerchrono it is pretty difficult to establish when it was made! 😁

The inside caseback is pretty austere:



The number matches, naturally.




I'm calling it a prototype and mentally adjusting it's value by +50% 😉
 
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Beautiful thread, thanks for sharing.
Regarding serial numbers and years of production, I can provide some data collected over the years by the passionates of italian forum Orologi & Passioni. These data have been officially confirmed by Mido:

(serial number - year of production)

382.xxx 1934
444.xxx 1936
478.xxx 1936 ±1
525.352 1940
610.xxx 1940 ±1
673.809 1942
753.xxx 1943
759xxx 1943
810.xxx 1944
885.xxx 1945
973623 1947
987657 1947
1134.xxx 1949
1248775 1950
1454221 1952
1644xxx 1954
1852xxx 1956
2.089.629 1957

Here you have the link to the original italian topic:

http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=43606038

Cheers, Alessandro

Well, are the first 3 or 4 digits fixed? I have 7 digits on the caseback: 1750XXX.

And yes, I also have 4 digits in between the lugs: 6XXX.

This is confusing.
 
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Well, effectively I think I didn't understand myself! between lugs of mine there are six numbers, not four, and the same six inside the caseback.
So I don't know why you have only four -if they match with caseback, is in any case good news 😉


Mmmmmm.... I remember this watch 😉