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timjohn
·I seem to remember reading an old Universal Geneve brochure somewhere that recommended repeatedly moving the hands back and forth between 8 and 4 as a quick way to reset the day on a Tri-Compax, but must admit I haven't had the courage to try it on mine.
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Kwijibo
·it definitly does not matter if you set the time clockwise or anticlockwise. A watch movement it done for that. nonetheless, it's risky to set the date between 11 an 1 oclock on some date watches because of the date jumper mecanism that can be broken. On the improved movementd the date juper is made in such way taht it can't break.
it'as little complicated to explain here
it'as little complicated to explain here
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Kwijibo
·I seem to remember reading an old Universal Geneve brochure somewhere that recommended repeatedly moving the hands back and forth between 8 and 4 as a quick way to reset the day on a Tri-Compax, but must admit I haven't had the courage to try it on mine.
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SteveP
·Yes-on a couple of my vintage Heuers they use the same 'non quick set' system as above....once a crown came apart in my hands after repeated date changes, and once the date wheel dislodged itself and is still (since last Christmas) stuck at 29/30....these days the date is less important to me ;-)
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Kwijibo
·When you say "the crown came apart", broken or unsrewed from the stem by turning it anticlockwise? As for the date disc, it's more dangerous for the condition of the movement...
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SteveP
·No-I meant the crown literally broke in my hands-the exterior case came away from the innards-I think it had had a 'bump' in it's past life. As for the date disc on my lovely Carrera 1153-the movement is a beauty and had runs strongly since being recently installed- it is waiting to be RE-installed...........these quirks come with the territory on vintage pieces IMO! 😀
When you say "the crown came apart", broken or unsrewed from the stem by turning it anticlockwise? As for the date disc, it's more dangerous for the condition of the movement...
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Kwijibo
·naughty boys! Don't f... with the date mecanism! 😀
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Kwijibo
·No-I meant the crown literally broke in my hands-the exterior case came away from the innards-I think it had had a 'bump' in it's past life. As for the date disc on my lovely Carrera 1153-the movement is a beauty and had runs strongly since being recently installed- it is waiting to be RE-installed...........these quirks come with the territory on vintage pieces IMO! 😀
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TNTwatch
·it definitly does not matter if you set the time clockwise or anticlockwise. A watch movement it done for that. nonetheless, it's risky to set the date between 11 an 1 oclock on some date watches because of the date jumper mecanism that can be broken. On the improved movementd the date juper is made in such way taht it can't break.
it'as little complicated to explain here
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Kwijibo
·well, in short, when you try to set the date between 11 and 1 the date finger is about to make the disc jump. before (circa) the mid 60's, this device had no security that allowed the "disengagement" of date finger.
I'll try to find some picture to explain. It'as almost 1 in Paris, time to go to bed 😀
See the date finger on this photo (neer the incabloc) the steel part on the brass wheel moves onto this wheel. it has a little pin underneath stucked into a slit So when you set the hour it can moves freely from the brass wheel (about 1/5th of a 360 rotation). but when the movement work it turns clockwise so it goes its way.
I'll try to find some picture to explain. It'as almost 1 in Paris, time to go to bed 😀
See the date finger on this photo (neer the incabloc) the steel part on the brass wheel moves onto this wheel. it has a little pin underneath stucked into a slit So when you set the hour it can moves freely from the brass wheel (about 1/5th of a 360 rotation). but when the movement work it turns clockwise so it goes its way.
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SteveP
·Thanks for the tip Kwijibo! In this case, I think the crown was a dodgy one to start with though-it wasn't up to the job of date setting through approx. 10 days. The crown wasn't original to the watch and had only recently been installed. My point was more that this method of date setting can place strain on a number of different vintage parts. (I'm no expert-just an enthusiast!)
Steve
Steve
When the crown is really hard to turn when you set the the time it's due to a too dry caanon pinion. lack of grease or too tight. So it can break. When a watch is serviced the cannon pinion MUST be removed, cleaned, greased and correctly tightened.
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Canuck
·Y'know, it's never too late to learn, I guess. 60 years successfully servicing watches of all types. And I have just learned today, that you should never turn the hands in watches sdrawkcab! Fan me with a red hot brick!
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TNTwatch
·well, in short, when you try to set the date between 11 and 1 the date finger is about to make the disc jump. before (circa) the mid 60's, this device had no security that allowed the "disengagement" of date finger.
I'll try to find some picture to explain. It'as almost 1 in Paris, time to go to bed 😀
Have a good night.
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Canuck
·well, in short, when you try to set the date between 11 and 1 the date finger is about to make the disc jump. before (circa) the mid 60's, this device had no security that allowed the "disengagement" of date finger.
I'll try to find some picture to explain. It'as almost 1 in Paris, time to go to bed 😀
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Kwijibo
·Y'know, it's never too late to learn, I guess. 60 years successfully servicing watches of all types. And I have just learned today, that you should never turn the hands in watches sdrawkcab! Fan me with a red hot brick!
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorwell, in short, when you try to set the date between 11 and 1 the date finger is about to make the disc jump. before (circa) the mid 60's, this device had no security that allowed the "disengagement" of date finger.
Don't want to break a date finger
Don't want to break a date finger
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cvera
·I haven't paid it much thought but have set it both ways for years and have noticed no negative damage, nor has my watchmaker pointed out any flaws on my vintage pieces
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...I know some movements are at risk changing the time near the date change. My Orient manual warned me in bold lettering 3 times, and had an included printed note saying it also.
When I got my speedy date, the dealer also included that note.
On the other hand some Rolex from the late 70's early 80's specifically stated that you should go back and forth on midnight to advance the date.
When I got my speedy date, the dealer also included that note.
On the other hand some Rolex from the late 70's early 80's specifically stated that you should go back and forth on midnight to advance the date.
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