Wise advice! But @janice&fred have told him he go full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes, and buy a pig in a poke, knowing nothing about it. Very helpful @janice&fred!
Maybe I will leave it at this, I'll tell him it's probably worth USD 1,000 max, tell him about some of the concerns and say that without seeing the movement it's impossible to tell if it's even worth that, and I will leave the ball in his court.
Then if he comes back I will report back with any new info?
How would that sound as a game plan?
Thanks to everyone for their help with this.
um...are you sure that's what I said? I gave an accurate market value and of course that assumes it's a running watch. on the other hand, you have given overly-emotional over-the-top negative knee-jerk reactions.
now...back to reality. at the price the owner is asking no, I don't suggest buying this watch. however for $1000 I would say yes. I would take as many as you could find for that price.
um...are you sure that's what I said? I gave an accurate market value and of course that assumes it's a running watch. on the other hand, you have given overly-emotional over-the-top negative knee-jerk reactions.
now...back to reality. at the price the owner is asking no, I don't suggest buying this watch. however for $1000 I would say yes. I would take as many as you could find for that price.
um...are you sure that's what I said? I gave an accurate market value and of course that assumes it's a running watch. on the other hand, you have given overly-emotional over-the-top negative knee-jerk reactions.
now...back to reality. at the price the owner is asking no, I don't suggest buying this watch. however for $1000 I would say yes. I would take as many as you could find for that price.
I gave an opinion. You jumped all over my post, and essentially have called me WRONG from the get go. This MB works best when you contribute to a thread, giving YOUR opinion, leaving the opinions of others as they are, then leave the OP to sort the wheat from the chaff, and make his own decision. My opinions are seldom wrong, but they ARE my opinions. For that I don’t apologize. In future (should you read any post of mine), just follow up and give your opinion, and leave it at that!
I think your first post in this thread speaks for itself...erroneous and over-the-top descriptors. tell us more about that oyster bracelet? the case back with a few nicks that you call mangled. have you seen many 50 to 60 year old watch case backs? the one pictured in this thread is not at all unusual given the age of the watch. I've seen much worse on mega-dollar subs and GMT's my friend. oh...and in the future I will post whatever I like, and pay zero attention to any directives from you. how's that?
Sorry, I'm behind on the treads by the time I have posted my reply, I was just about to say.
He wants £2,000 (GBP), but it comes with a new ostrich Rolex strap (genuine but not original) and a box (which he notes as potentially not original) - take off the strap and I suspect he's at £1,800, and take off a bit more for haggling and I suspect £1,600 is where it is without any real argument.
Seem like consensus is that would be too much - I quite like the watch so my approach would be just to tell him what a fair price is taking everything into account (e.g. the risk associated with not being able to see the movement given the mess someone has made of the back of the case).
That price is far too high. Regardless of condition, this is a small entry-level Rolex. There's nothing wrong with this reference, but it's not particularly desirable.
One last thing if I may - the other watch I had been considering is below - what issues might there be with this watch that I should take into account? This one would make me just short of 'vintage' so is still marginally acceptable from a dateline / ego perspective!
If this one doesn't pass inspection I think I will take a breather for a while and spend a few months educating myself further!
Seller: watches.co.uk
Price: £2,850
Warranty: 12 Months
Age: 1972 (date stamped II.72 denoting second quarter 1972)
Model No: 5500
Box: Non Original Box
Papers: SWC Authenticity Card
Diameter: 34mm
Condition: Pre Owned - Fine
Case: stainless steel case
Crown: screw down crown and screw-down back
Movement: automatic movement
Dial: silver coloured dial with linen texture
Batons: white Raised Hour Batons
Crystal: plexi Glass
Strap: brown leather strap (Non-Rolex)
Buckle: original Rolex buckle
Any help you can give would be most appreciated, then I will leave you all in peace to enjoy your Sunday afternoon!
Thanks for this - apart from the AP I've constantly got my eye on (but never pull the trigger on) I tend to go for really simple watches, which is nice as it tends to keep me at the entry levels and out of the way of the bigger fish - I gave him the feedback on price and condition, he said he'd turned down £1,600 and felt a but dumb for doing so now - said he'd take it to have a proper watchmaker open the back and take a look - or just pass it down to his kids - I suspect he also needs a bit of time to realign his expectations! I will move on too from this one I think, thanks to everyone for their help.
Terrible polishing on that one, some of the lugs have been polished down to almost nothing, with the lug holes at the very tips. I doubt that the hands and dial are an original set. It's common for the lume to age somewhat differently, but it's not likely that the lume would be yellow on the hands and black on the dial. In any case, the price is absurd.
If he is telling the truth, he was extremely foolish to turn down that offer. You can find watches like that for much less any day of the week.
Was just about to respond saying very much the same. Stick around here for a bit, and keep your eye on sales from known forum members. You’ll find much better pieces at fair pricing.
Thank you, I think I will do that ………..
Finally question, is it safe to assume that if I buy something from a proper auction (e.g. Bonhams on 18 Feb) that the watch will be roughly fairly valued for the quality i.e. am I relatively safe buying at auction, or is that too a bit of a minefield for a Newbie?
Thanks again for all the help.
