Your thoughts on a polerouter

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la_lusigne

·Nov 6, 2020

Hello,

I have come across a polerouter and wanted your insights about it 😀

Here it is :

It is a reference 868108/02 - 2325977

In my opinion the dial seems good, crystal is in bad shape, the crown is correct.
But here comes my doubt about it : it is the case, especially the bottom lugs which look bizarrely polished, almost flat in the first photo whereas on the example below found on the marvellous universal geneve polerouter site (https://universalgenevepolerouter.com/galleries/20366-polerouter-microtor/), they look more rounded

So is it me or does it look weird to you as well ?

Many thanks

 

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Mazoue

·Nov 7, 2020

In my opinion, the watch for sale is an absolute belter.

Photos can sometimes be deceiving. The photo below from another angle shows no evidence of polishing in my opinion and with the caseback looking as sharp as this, I'm not sure the dreaded polisher has ever been near this watch.

If you don't buy it, I might 😀

 

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bgrisso

·Nov 7, 2020

I was going to say, that’s one of the best case backs I have ever seen

 

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la_lusigne

·Nov 7, 2020

Many thanks, I’ll try to get it ! 😀

 

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WhereMadnessLies

·Nov 8, 2020

Has anyone ever seen this arrow on the case back of a Polerouter before? I've never noticed it before, unless it is specific to this reference?

 

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CafeRacer

·Nov 8, 2020

Don't recall seeing it before.
Hard to tell from the photo whether it looks factory or by a watchmaker - at least to me it doesnt look to have been done carelessly either way.

 

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jumpingsecond

·Nov 8, 2020

Ive seen those arrows on poleroter sub casebacks every now and then. Forgot if there was an explanation..

 

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Bauhaus

·Nov 8, 2020

Nice piece. The dial is extremely crisp. No or hardly any corrosion on the hands.
Looks like a great buy.

 

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CafeRacer

·Nov 8, 2020

jumpingsecond

Ive seen those arrows on poleroter sub casebacks every now and then. Forgot if there was an explanation..

Do you remember which sub references they were?
(if if you can find them again... 😁 sounds interesting!)

 

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Dan S

·Nov 8, 2020

I'm not specifically familiar with these case-backs, but sometimes an arrow like this is associated with a bayonet case-back closure, such as on Enicar cases. So the arrow indicates the open or closed position.

 

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CafeRacer

·Nov 8, 2020

Dan S

Is the arrow associated with a bayonet case-back closure?

These are all screwback "compressor" cases.

Edited: Nov 8, 2020

 

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Dan S

·Nov 8, 2020

CafeRacer

These are all screwback "compressor" cases.

Actually, I just did a quick search, and some definitely appear to have bayonet cases, which seal with just a 1/4 turn. Obviously I have no idea if the OP watch is in this category, since the photos are incomplete. Here is one:

https://www.vintagewatchcollective.com/product-page/universal-geneve-polerouter-date-glossy-dial



In fact, on this forum, @bgrisso posted about his in a different thread (https://omegaforums.net/threads/post-your-universal-geneves.40710/page-62)

 

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CafeRacer

·Nov 8, 2020

Dan S

Actually, I just did a quick search, and some definitely appear to have bayonet cases, which seal with just a 1/4 turn. Obviously I have no idea if the OP watch is in this category, since the photos are incomplete. Here is one:

In fact, on this forum, @bgrisso posted about his in a different thread (https://omegaforums.net/threads/post-your-universal-geneves.40710/page-62)

Ah, if thats what you meant by "Bayonet". 😀
In that case, yes, they all have this style of caseback. 👍

Edit: There is a summary on some (Piquerez) compressor/supercompressor cases here:
https://wornandwound.com/guide-super-compressors/
and a copy of one of the original patents for them:
https://universalgenevepolerouter.com/documentation/case-piquerez-patent-317537-swiss/
(i.e. theyre not "bayonet" in the same way as the thread you linked to).

Edited: Nov 8, 2020

 

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Mazoue

·Nov 8, 2020

I've seen lots of these arrows on Polerouter cases.

As noted above, they were on the compressor cases.

 

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Dan S

·Nov 8, 2020

CafeRacer

Ah, if thats what you meant by "Bayonet". 😀
In that case, yes, they all have this style of caseback. 👍

Edit: There is a summary on some (Piquerez) compressor/supercompressor cases here:
https://wornandwound.com/guide-super-compressors/
and a copy of one of the original patents for them:
https://universalgenevepolerouter.com/documentation/case-piquerez-patent-317537-swiss/
(i.e. theyre not "bayonet" in the same way as the thread you linked to).

I am not the one who said that super compressor cases are bayonet cases. This is all very well known, please do some research before posting. Some EPSA cases are bayonet and some are not. Enicar specifically used bayonet EPSA SC cases, and they have a different Brevet number. I'm sure you can find many references on these cases.

 

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CafeRacer

·Nov 8, 2020

Dan S

please do some research before posting.

👍

 

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MtnMarine

·Nov 8, 2020

I've been looking at these recently. I would definitely pick that one up. Very nice.

 

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bgrisso

·Nov 8, 2020

Mazoue

I've seen lots of these arrows on Polerouter cases.

As noted above, they were on the compressor cases.

I’ve seen plenty of these arrows as well

 

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Mazoue

·Nov 9, 2020

Dan S

I am not the one who said that super compressor cases are bayonet cases. This is all very well known, please do some research before posting. Some EPSA cases are bayonet and some are not. Enicar specifically used bayonet EPSA SC cases, and they have a different Brevet number. I'm sure you can find many references on these cases.

The guy spends all his spare time researching in order to put together a Polerouter reference site for everyone's benefit and for no personal gain and you tell him to do some research before posting 😁

 

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Mazoue

·Nov 9, 2020

la_lusigne

Many thanks, I’ll try to get it ! 😀

Did you get it?