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from my perspective, it's more 'how' one drives slower or faster.

For sure - any sort of erratic driving is more than annoying. But I have certainly been guilty of thinking "what is this person doing?" when they are being a bit erratic, only to see that they are clearly lost and trying to figure out where they are and how to get where they want to be. We've all been there, so I try to cut people some clack on the roads....more than I used to anyway.

Now my wife on the other hand...being Australian the string of obscenities that can come out when she is driving can be a bit surprising, even for me...😉
 
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from my perspective, it's more 'how' one drives slower or faster.
I’m in germany this week and I wish so much that people in the US and Canada would learn to drive as they do here (with highways and rules to match). People drive in the outside lanes unless they’re passing, and this allows those in the biggest hurry to drive very quickly in the inner lane. It avoids random passing in the wrong lane and ensures everyone gets where they want to go at the pace they want to get there.
 
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But regardless of that, I do, secretly think that the world is mostly full of inconsiderate assholes.

The famous french humorist (RIP) Coluche was saying : "Every new year comes with its lot of assholes. This year, I've got the feeling that next years' assholes are already here" 😁
 
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Travelling is one of the precious things in life. If we let it happen, our horizons broaden and we learn exactly as @gostang9 and @M'Bob describe.

If I may, and I don't mean to hijack this thread, tell a little story during my truck travels.

I was stopped at the Carney's Point Flying J. I decided to go in to get milk and a few snacks. There is always a Denny's restaurant in those truck stops. The line at the cash register was somewhat long. I saw the cook come out and he wanted to buy some smokes and he saw the lineup. Without thinking, I let him in front of me. He simply winked. He got up to the cash register, paid for his smokes, turned around, looked at my milk and candy bars, then paid for them. I went to him. Couldn't accept. He insisted. The eye contact and fist bump felt like I was being hugged by my mother. I will NEVER forget that moment. I thought this what was pure human goodness felt like, in all its simplicity.

Cheers,
 
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I’m in germany this week and I wish so much that people in the US and Canada would learn to drive as they do here (with highways and rules to match). People drive in the outside lanes unless they’re passing, and this allows those in the biggest hurry to drive very quickly in the inner lane. It avoids random passing in the wrong lane and ensures everyone gets where they want to go at the pace they want to get there.

The law in the US is supposed to be just that - keep right except to pass. The problem is the truly ignorant combined with the willfully (and sometimes defiantly) ignorant. I can tell them apart very easily. I have a laminated paper copy of the KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS sign like you see on the side of the highways every few miles. I put it in my drivers side window. When I get behind somebody that won't move right despite driving slower than the rest of traffic, who won't move even when I flash my high beams, I get to the right of them and pull up along side their car. I match speeds and honk the horn until they look. They can't miss my sign. If they give me the finger, they're in the willfully/defiantly ignorant group. If they pull out of the left lane after I go buy, they're from the genuinely ignorant group. Most of the latter are probably not natural born Americans and may not have known the law, or may have been vegetating / in a highway trance.

Anyone driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone driving faster is a maniac...a common way drivers think.

....and that's part of another Carlin routine. 😉
 
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The law in the US is supposed to be just that - keep right except to pass. The problem is the truly ignorant combined with the willfully (and sometimes defiantly) ignorant. I can tell them apart very easily. I have a laminated paper copy of the KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS sign like you see on the side of the highways every few miles. I put it in my drivers side window. When I get behind somebody that won't move right despite driving slower than the rest of traffic, who won't move even when I flash my high beams, I get to the right of them and pull up along side their car. I match speeds and honk the horn until they look. They can't miss my sign. If they give me the finger, they're in the willfully/defiantly ignorant group. If they pull out of the left lane after I go buy, they're from the genuinely ignorant group. Most of the latter are probably not natural born Americans and may not have known the law, or may have been vegetating / in a highway trance.

Crikey, if that's not a joke then you are a braver man than me! You have no idea what gangster or psycho is in the other car....

My usual reaction when I encounter someone driving in what I consider an erratic, inconsiderate, dangerous etc. manner is to distance myself from them as quickly as is reasonably possible and avoid eye contact in the process.
 
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Just to illustrate how difficult it can be to learn theses lessons: I rent space in a large office complex, with a number of solo practitioners. In my small area, which I share with two other guys, there is one thermostat that controls the temperature of our entire area.

The guy who rents space across from me, no matter what the season, will invariably jump up and adjust the thermostat to suit his own personal comfort needs. He is always too cold in the summer and winter, meaning he either cranks the heat up to unbearable levels, or shuts the air off when it's desperately needed.

I've tried to counter this, over nearly ten years now, by attempting to lead by example: I always say, before making any adjustments, "Hey Jim (name has been changed to protect the guilty), do you mind if i change the temperature in here?" Still, he doesn't get the idea. We've even had confrontations about it, and, while its good for a while, he will eventually revert back to his usual, passive-aggressive ways, like making a change when I've gone out for lunch.

Now, you would think that after my previously-noted, life-changing epiphany about giving someone the benefit of the doubt, I would default to thinking, this guy shows no consideration because he was probably abused/neglected/treated similarly, thus he has no road map about how to treat other people. Yet, every morning that I arrive at work, and see his car in the driveway, I am disappointed that he hasn't suffered a massive stroke, or died in a fiery car wreck. But I'm working on it. With varying levels of success. Just today, I was walking down the stairs, and saw a loose floor board. Then I fantasized that he would take a misstep, and tumble down them...
 
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Yet, every morning that I arrive at work, and see his car in the driveway, I am disappointed that he hasn't suffered a massive stroke, or died in a fiery car wreck.

You better keep working on that life-changing epiphany 😗
 
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You better keep working on that life-changing epiphany 😗
It was only temporary. He got over it.

Obviously, I was being tongue and cheek in my post. But the point is, when someone is being consistently annoying, it is challenging for anyone to look the other way, and let empathy dominate. Maybe I should hold up a sign, that says, "Leave the flippin' thermostat alone!"
 
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@M'Bob, I knew you weren’t serious. Just thought I’d take the opportunity to jab you a little. Hope you knew I was kidding 👍
 
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Just to illustrate how difficult it can be to learn theses lessons: I rent space in a large office complex, with a number of solo practitioners. In my small area, which I share with two other guys, there is one thermostat that controls the temperature of our entire area.

The guy who rents space across from me, no matter what the season, will invariably jump up and adjust the thermostat to suit his own personal comfort needs. He is always too cold in the summer and winter, meaning he either cranks the heat up to unbearable levels, or shuts the air off when it's desperately needed.

I've tried to counter this, over nearly ten years now, by attempting to lead by example: I always say, before making any adjustments, "Hey Jim (name has been changed to protect the guilty), do you mind if i change the temperature in here?" Still, he doesn't get the idea. We've even had confrontations about it, and, while its good for a while, he will eventually revert back to his usual, passive-aggressive ways, like making a change when I've gone out for lunch.

Now, you would think that after my previously-noted, life-changing epiphany about giving someone the benefit of the doubt, I would default to thinking, this guy shows no consideration because he was probably abused/neglected/treated similarly, thus he has no road map about how to treat other people. Yet, every morning that I arrive at work, and see his car in the driveway, I am disappointed that he hasn't suffered a massive stroke, or died in a fiery car wreck. But I'm working on it. With varying levels of success. Just today, I was walking down the stairs, and saw a loose floor board. Then I fantasized that he would take a misstep, and tumble down them...

Maybe he just lived in a house with no heat growing up and he's just making up for it?
 
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Wow, I can't believe how many interesting viewpoints this thread has generated.

@gostang9 I particularly liked your comments about our perceptions shaping our reality. For me realising this was one of life's 'aha' moments and moved me towards a more positive outlook. There is a good article below on this construct:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-media-psychology-effect/201311/stinking-thinking-and-expectation-bias?amp

@M'Bob I also work in the medical profession and every day have had a wide exposure to many different type of people, from different cultures, ages, social demographics etc.

I have been with people during the lowest point of their life, having to impart terminal diagnoses and also dealt with many people who want to end their life.

Most patients are pleasant to deal with but invariably, due to the volume of contacts, there are a number of less than pleasant contacts! I've dealt with people who have swore at me, called me racially offensive names and, on one or two occasions, attacked me.

My own journey to deal with this and progress as a medical professional, and human being, has been to delve into the murky depths of social and behavioural science. I feel it helps me make sense of other peoples' actions and, more importantly, my own thoughts and reactions to them.

I believe this approach has stopped me burning out and becoming a cynical person and allows me to be happier at work and life 😀
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“Whatever your mind believes influences you positively or negatively.”
 
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This is the first, and only, watch forum I've been part of and via buying watches from other members I've been struck by how much goodwill there is and this appears to be the currency OF largely operates on.

It's awesome!!
 
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This is the first, and only, watch forum I've been part of and via buying watches from other members I've been struck by how much goodwill there is and this appears to be the currency OF largely operates on.

It's awesome!!

Goodwill is certainly the paper money portion of ΩF currency. There's one or two coins minted from sarcasm and thread drift mixed in.
 
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Goodwill is certainly the paper money portion of ΩF currency. There's one or two coins minted from sarcasm and thread drift mixed in.

That's a vivid and apt metaphor
 
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I had a situation at work. My employee couldn't help the customer and everything was not going right.I have realized it after few days. My boss started drilling hole in my head, that issue must be resolved immediately and blah blah blah blah... I'm calling the customer and he is not picking up the phone all day.
Finally I've got hold of him, we have discussed the issue and potential solutions and he has told me that we should do a conference call next day, because he wasn't feeling good. Next day, I'm calling him over and over, sending emails and text messages...Nothing... After my frustration with him, I was about to talk to my superiors and explain the situation. I had a solutions on hands, but he wasn't taking any actions or, if he did, I wasn't aware of the final outcome. Then I got the call from the company, saying that my contact was rushed to the hospital night before and has died from pneumonia next day...
I'm still feeling like ass, even though I wasn't giving him hard time, I was thinking like :" C'mon man, you've complained about something, now I'm trying to make everything right and you are not taking it...WTF is going on with this situation..."