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Why is there a waiting list for the Speedmaster Hesalite?

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on EU website still possible to order
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Nice!

Why do they only let you order one at a time???
 
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Ok, just curious, but I have to ask. It appears that some of you are ordering directly from Omega which means paying full price. I can’t speak for the UK and the EU, but there’s absolutely no reason to pay full price in the US and discounts are readily available, often with the full Omega warranty. So what’s the rationale for ordering directly from Omega? No stock available from ADs, grey market, etc.?
 
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Ok, just curious, but I have to ask. It appears that some of you are ordering directly from Omega which means paying full price. I can’t speak for the UK and the EU, but there’s absolutely no reason to pay full price in the US and discounts are readily available, often with the full Omega warranty. So what’s the rationale for ordering directly from Omega? No stock available from ADs, grey market, etc.?
No chance of being a fake either.
 
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Ok, just curious, but I have to ask. It appears that some of you are ordering directly from Omega which means paying full price. I can’t speak for the UK and the EU, but there’s absolutely no reason to pay full price in the US and discounts are readily available, often with the full Omega warranty. So what’s the rationale for ordering directly from Omega? No stock available from ADs, grey market, etc.?
What happened was that I asked my AD for a hesalite speedmaster. He replied saying that those are currently hard to find. So I went on the Omega website to find it myself, then send him the link.

I later realized that on the Omega website it wasn't available.
 
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Nice!

Why do they only let you order one at a time???
Didn't order just checking your question, don't know why they max the quantity.
 
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Ok, just curious, but I have to ask. It appears that some of you are ordering directly from Omega which means paying full price. I can’t speak for the UK and the EU, but there’s absolutely no reason to pay full price in the US and discounts are readily available, often with the full Omega warranty. So what’s the rationale for ordering directly from Omega? No stock available from ADs, grey market, etc.?

You get a free Omega Nato-strap of your choice 😎
 
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In terms of will the old ones go up/down, I'd say from everything I've ever bought or collected that it will go up in price.

The Omega forums will be flooded with people saying they've ruined the Speedmaster and now that it has hacking seconds and (I believe?) Co-axial, that it's no longer a real traditional Speedmaster. Even worse if they release one model only and give it a sapphire front or display back.

You'll have 321 as the vintage original and then 861/1861 as the cheaper tweaked version of the original which is what most people will be advised to buy if they want the last true closest thing to a Moonwatch and that's where the Speedmaster lineage will die.

Anything else like 3861 or whatever they're putting into the X-Side of the moon editions and moonphases are just a modern imitation and unnecessary improvement probably in most people's eyes.

This pretty accurately reflects my thinking too. I reckon prices of the current version will hold quite well. Sure, there are probably 10s of thousands out there nowadays but the current versions are close enough to originals and affordable enough for people who can't afford a totally original early Speedmaster Pro.

I picked up a sapphire sandwich about a week ago ahead of the 1st Sept price rise which seems to be filtering in around the world today. I certainly wasn't really interested in a 3861 version even thought the SS 1863 movement and crystal aren't the 'original' Moonwatch. And I really didn't want to have to pay another 15-20% on top for the privilege of having a 3861 co-axial movement I didn't want!
 
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As of this morning the hesalite 1861 Speedy is still listed on Omega’s USA website at $5,350 but there is no availability. US grey market still has availability and the price averages around $4,500.
 
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As of this morning the hesalite 1861 Speedy is still listed on Omega’s USA website at $5,350 but there is no availability. US grey market still has availability and the price averages around $4,500.
I plan on checking daily. Kinda curious to see what happens.
 
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As of this morning the hesalite 1861 Speedy is still listed on Omega’s USA website at $5,350 but there is no availability. US grey market still has availability and the price averages around $4,500.

You make a good point, I have no qualms about paying full price but always happy to pick up a bargain, but I would never buy a watch online, my watches would only get purchased when I can try them on, and walk out of the shop carrying it with me, and I prefer to buy from an AD.
 
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You make a good point, I have no qualms about paying full price but always happy to pick up a bargain, but I would never buy a watch online, my watches would only get purchased when I can try them on, and walk out of the shop carrying it with me, and I prefer to buy from an AD.
To each his own. I have purchased all of my watches online, both new and vintage. Never had an issue. Have tried on many watches at the OB, but would never purchase one there.
 
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You make a good point, I have no qualms about paying full price but always happy to pick up a bargain, but I would never buy a watch online, my watches would only get purchased when I can try them on, and walk out of the shop carrying it with me, and I prefer to buy from an AD.
Agree 100%
 
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You make a good point, I have no qualms about paying full price but always happy to pick up a bargain, but I would never buy a watch online, my watches would only get purchased when I can try them on, and walk out of the shop carrying it with me, and I prefer to buy from an AD.

I like 3500km from the nearest AD or Boutique 😉
 
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I like 3500km from the nearest AD or Boutique 😉
But you live near some really interesting creatures and scenery. 😁
 
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I like 3500km from the nearest AD or Boutique 😉

Plenty of 'time' to fall in love with the new watch on the way back from the AD.

😁
 
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To each his own. I have purchased all of my watches online, both new and vintage. Never had an issue. Have tried on many watches at the OB, but would never purchase one there.

Thats why online dealers exist and do good business, I just prefer buying from the AD/OB for expensive items, as you say each to our own, neither approach is wrong just personal choice. Enjoy your watch collecting.
 
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Thats why online dealers exist and do good business, I just prefer buying from the AD/OB for expensive items, as you say each to our own, neither approach is wrong just personal choice. Enjoy your watch collecting.
And you as well.
 
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