Why do you not prefer Rolex?

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I frankly have nothing against their watches, and am even somewhat interested in them now. But I do cringe at the thought that wearing one may send the wrong message to some people. When you provide professional services some people tend to think you are a rip-off because your hourly rates are so high. A 'symbol' such as a Rolex, arriving to a meeting in a Mercedes, etc. only reinforces their preconceived notions. Forget that in the real world a Rolex can be substantially less expensive then a PP, etc.; to many a Rolex is the most expensive watch out there, and they'll be damned if they will pay you your asking fee if it allows you to go buy things they cannot afford themselves.

True story -- I sat next to the head of a design-construction office for a university earlier today, and he was wearing a Mickey Mouse watch 馃榾 I'm sure there is a story behind it, but I did not have a chance to ask.

"Forget that in the real world a Rolex can be substantially less expensive then a PP, etc.; to many a Rolex is the most expensive watch out there" -- I think this is one culprit! Good point!
 
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Starting a thread about hating Rolex in the Rolex Forum? 馃槻



Now that we've gotten that out of the way, I'll relate why I no longer own any Rolexes. Let me preface this by saying I think they are one of the best inhouse values in Swiss watches along with JLC. However, NOBODY ever asked me if any of my Audemars Piguets, my Vacheron Constantin, or any other brand of watch I owned was fake. Rolex though? It's like a God dammed genetic response to say "Is that real?". Even one of my old bosses who knew I was a watch collector and knew what my income was so it was easy to figure I could afford a simple DateJust still asked that question, as if he couldn't help himself from saying it. 馃う 馃檮

I would be 馃が pissed if someone came up to me and asked me if my watch is real....
 
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I have a GMT Master II ... Bought it new. Rolex makes a dammed great tool watch. The wheels come off for me on anything not SS. They are bullet proof accurate and reliable. I bought it because that's what I wanted. You can wear it anywhere. I don't give a damn about what anyone thinks. Great value for money. Have two JLC's as well (master calendar and grand reverso duo) Heritage, superb engineering, respect .. Value for money. That's what these brands are about. I do lust after VC / Lange .... Also worthy.
I have a GMT Master II ... Bought it new. Rolex makes a dammed great tool watch. The wheels come off for me on anything not SS. They are bullet proof accurate and reliable. I bought it because that's what I wanted. You can wear it anywhere. I don't give a damn about what anyone thinks. Great value for money. Have two JLC's as well (master calendar and grand reverso duo) Heritage, superb engineering, respect .. Value for money. That's what these brands are about. I do lust after VC / Lange .... Also worthy.

Completely agree with you. I like it because you just don't have to care about it...
 
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I don't hate Rolex, I just like Tudor better..


I absolutely love tudor! This might be another thread, but this brand is completely shrugged off among my friends who think its a poor man's rolex...I think its so awesome, especially since their comeback to the US!
 
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Haha you're still trying to annoy @sgtpry 馃槤
Guilty as charged. But with no malice. I just think i could spot that as a Rolex even worn facing in. The case shape is unmistakable as are the proportions of the bezel and dial.

But anyway, i mean well.
 
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When @Archer who is arguable one of the most knowledgeable members around wanted a red line he still went through the process and asked and checked and verified and payd. If he does that with his level of knowledge then imagine what we should do with ours...

I mean, not helping dude.... not helping!

::decides to abandon the idea of a 1675, and figures the right Heuer 2446C GMT will scratch the itch, esp. since it's a chrono::
 
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But but... Im still getting over easter. Not just the crucifixion, or the resurrection.... But that damn rabbit that lays eggs!!! It's freaky!

And the eggs are chocolate!

You probably still think 9/11 wasn't perpetrated by the illuminati and that Kennedy wasn't killed by lizard people that live underground and that... that.... that we didn't fake the moon landing!!!!!!!11!

(That last one actually hurt to type, not just because I'm a Speedmaster collector, but also because I'm a space nerd / fan of human intelligence in general)
 
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You probably still think 9/11 wasn't perpetrated by the illuminati and that Kennedy wasn't killed by lizard people that live underground and that... that.... that we didn't fake the moon landing!!!!!!!11!

(That last one actually hurt to type, not just because I'm a Speedmaster collector, but also because I'm a space nerd / fan of human intelligence in general)
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Agreed - but the real " 馃檨 " is that most believers in conspiracy theories are those in the lower economic classes, who are most hurt by the truth - that the illuminati / lizards / Stanley Kubrick filming moon landings are just a BS story they tell themselves instead of confronting the real source of their problems: the politico-economic systems that they continuously vote for because of their candidates' social platforms 馃檨
 
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Kennedy was killed by the haberdashery industry. He made NOT wearing a hat popular, causing many to lose their jobs.
 
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Kennedy was killed by the haberdashery industry. He made NOT wearing a hat popular, causing many to lose their jobs.

This was the illuminati's plan all along so they could take us over!

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I suppose the OP started the thread to discuss why some "hate" the Rolex BRAND, which could also be interpreted as "hating" not the BRAND but "hating" its more fanatical brand followers i.e the Rolex hardcore FAN-BASE.

I don麓t think anyone actually "hates" the whole Rolex PRODUCT range and certainly you can麓t "hate" Rolex THE COMPANY for having achieved continued success in the luxury watch / luxury segment by normal business practices and pursuit of excellence. As a business the Rolex COMPANY certainly deserves recognition and applause.

Like it or not Rolex are of course market leaders and THE reference luxury watch brand for the vast majority of people.This means that they will inevitably attract a certain consumer profile who value the luxury brand leader for its status symbol vibe / association with wealth (won麓t start the "bag thing" again here @Longbow馃榾 but Louis Vuitton does attract a similar profile I believe). These are often insecure people who have not had access to "culture" / general education etc and who often become obnoxious after acquiring some degree of wealth...not exactly the sort of FAN-BASE most OmegaForums members would admire馃榾

Another factor that also comes into play is that Leader brands tend to reemphasize their No 1. status, winner takes all etc, which will inevitably come across as an "arrogant" posture which some might find distasteful and yet others will adore...QED the "TRUMP" vibe thing.

So this then leads to the following paradox...you can actually like a given Rolex PRODUCT, but you don麓t want to be associated with the perceived arrogant Rolex FAN-BASE, as you consider yourself to be a more discerning, sophisticated individual (so you might actually have a big ego to go against the grain of Rollie lovers, but make a big effort to keep it in under wraps馃榾).

So you start the "I hate" Rolex thing and purchase Omega / JLC as alternative watch brands in a similar price range to Rolex. If you do this (and I have been down this road), you are actually demonstrating your insecurity in terms of worrying excessively about third party opinions ref. the time piece on your wrist.

I believe I have got over the "I hate Rolex" phase and I can now safely state the following...I admire Rolex THE COMPANY and the following Rolex PRODUCTS in their current product range:
The 42mm Explorer 2 (I own and am wearing right now), the "corrected' 2016 Explorer 1 (on this year麓s shopping list), the new OP 39mm and the 40mm Platinum Day-Date. I consider many of these products to be best in class in their respective segments.

I do not admire the "perceived" Rolex FAN-BASE, even though there are many Rolex fans (many in this forum, for example) who do not fall into the obnoxious Rolex FAN-BASE categorization outlined above.

I admire the Omega FAN-BASE (generally more relaxed, less competitive etc.), the Omega PRODUCTS (I own five "modern" Omegas) as well as the Omega COMPANY.

BTW the fact the OP lives somewhere (perhaps Monaco?) were Rolex is considered a "daily beater", is clearly not a representative view of the wider global market. Cheers.

Thanks for sharing!!!

"Leader brands tend to reemphasize their No 1. status, winner takes all etc, which will inevitably come across as an "arrogant" posture which some might find distasteful and yet others will adore...QED the "TRUMP" vibe thing."

Can you explain this a bit more? What I do feel is they don't really take you seriously if you look like you're not gonna buy a watch...but this is kinda true in many high end stores...
 
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I mean, not helping dude.... not helping!

::decides to abandon the idea of a 1675, and figures the right Heuer 2446C GMT will scratch the itch, esp. since it's a chrono::

^^^^^^ This this this this this ^^^^^^

Been having the 1675/16750 jones for a bit but also love the vintage chrono, glad to see I'm not the only "two birds with one stone" thinker.
 
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Old boss : did you tell him his submariner is fake? 馃槤
Nope, I've never called any one out on a fake watch. Actually everyone that has had a fake watch has told me that theirs was fake proudly. Also I don't examine watches that closely and honestly most Rolex Submariner fakes these days are pretty good that you can't tell unless you are really examining it. I didn't even ask about his watch, he just voluntarily mentioned it one day when his fake Rolex bezel fell off and he went around making all of us look around for it.

Old boss because he was an idiot. 馃槤
 
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^^^^^^ This this this this this ^^^^^^

Been having the 1675/16750 jones for a bit but also love the vintage chrono, glad to see I'm not the only "two birds with one stone" thinker.

Yep! I'm way more of a chrono collector than a 3-hand guy (or 4-hand, in this case). The GMT is a special watch, but I just know I'm gonna get scammed trying to buy one. Meanwhile, the 2446C isn't my preference in Autavias, but the 2446C GMT is pretty cool, and it's a chronograph with real heritage, for the same price as a 1675. And no date window to deal with either!

EDIT: Scammed trying to buy a GMT meaning either ripped off completely, or buying one that I think is sorted out but turns out to have all the wrong tiny details etc
 
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Timely thread for me. I've been thinking about getting a Milgauss for some time, but every time, I end up thinking of other good watches I could get for less...
I think the Milgauss possibly flies 'under the radar' more than other models (Sub, GMT, etc), but I still worry about those who would judge me for what's on my wrist. A couple of posts that have suggested you need to get over this and stop worrying about everyone else have been helpful with my decision making, but the jury's still out.
I guess if I can live with the Breitling 'haters', I can zip up the flame proof suit and strap on a Rolex... 馃榿
Or perhaps a nice first Omega would be more appropriate considering this forum...
 
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A couple of posts that have suggested you need to get over this and stop worrying about everyone else

Those posts are right - if the Milgauss is what speaks to you, go try one on at a Rolex AD and buy one if you like it! Forget what other people think - if they want to judge you, drop a little knowledge on 'em 馃榾
However, if you think you can do better for the money, well, that's also up to you - only you can truly decide that!
 
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Missed this thread yesterday or I swear I would of killed it before it got started. Many took the high road in response and I am glad of that.
Not really type of thread we like here. Kind of a WUS type thread. To the OP, thanks for nothing. Please don't start a thread like this again. You couldn't have asked why the watch is liked? The title was rather trollish. You have earned future scrutiny.