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janice&fred
·oh my god get over it and stop playing up to the crowd. we used to kid around just fine on PWF for years. it's not like you don't know me.
Who are these two guys on an old Soviet watch?
oh my god get over it and stop playing up to the crowd. we used to kid around just fine on PWF for years. it's not like you don't know me.
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allwoundup
·On a lighter note....I recall while I was working in Washington that during one of Yeltsin’s visits he was found outside the White House one night in his underwear by the Secret Service quite drunk attempting to hail a cab....he said he wanted to get a pizza.
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janice&fred
·On a lighter note....I recall while I was working in Washington that during one of Yeltsin’s visits he was found outside the White House one night in his underwear by the Secret Service quite drunk attempting to hail a cab....he said he wanted to get a pizza.
sounds like a typical nite out to me 😀
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Shabbaz
·On a lighter note....I recall while I was working in Washington that during one of Yeltsin’s visits he was found outside the White House one night in his underwear by the Secret Service quite drunk attempting to hail a cab....he said he wanted to get a pizza.
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pongster
·oh my god get over it and stop playing up to the crowd. we used to kid around just fine on PWF for years. it's not like you don't know me.
Did you mean PWC?
Just checked now. No wonder your handle looked familiar. You havent posted there in a while.
Ok, in the spirit of christmas, all good. Let’s end the “cold war”. 😀 Maybe we can also have a commemorative watch.
Didnt occur to me at first that you were a fellow PWCer. Good to know. See you next year at the GTG?
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base615
·Not so obvious if some of our fellow members thought it was under Yeltsin when the cold war ended.
It would not have been in my consciousness as well had i not seen last month in eastern europe how much of a big deal the 30th anniversary of the end of the cold war was.
And who says am pulling in the big pesos?
Although most of the major policies and events (Glasnost, Perestroika, Berlin Wall etc.) leading up to the end of the Cold War were under Gorbachev, the Cold War is generally viewed to have ended with the dissolution of the USSR in December 1991. Yeltsin was in power at the time, having ascended to the presidency in the middle of the year.
the 30th anniversary you’re referring to was the fall of the Berlin Wall, not the end of the Cold War.
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pongster
·I guess not being a traditional declared war (not sure if this is what is called a “hot war”), the cold war had both nebulous begining and end.
Looked it up and saw this.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...e-world-cold-war-officially-ends-2149069.html
Not even sure if such an undeclared war can even have an official end. At least it has now ended. Or has it? 😀
Looked it up and saw this.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...e-world-cold-war-officially-ends-2149069.html
Not even sure if such an undeclared war can even have an official end. At least it has now ended. Or has it? 😀
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Phil F
·Let me show u another big boss😁
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base615
·I guess not being a traditional declared war (not sure if this is what is called a “hot war”), the cold war had both nebulous begining and end.
Looked it up and saw this.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...e-world-cold-war-officially-ends-2149069.html
Not even sure if such an undeclared war can even have an official end. At least it has now ended. Or has it? 😀
Even that article says, rather in contradiction to the headline:
“Although the war did not actually end for another two years, the meeting between Gorbachev and Bush was a major stepping stone on the journey to peace.”
I’d say it ended, but we’re probably in a new one right now...
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pongster
·Yes sir.
I think article’s thesis was cold war’s “official” end in 1989 (with gorbachev) but “actual” end in 1991 (with yeltsin).
My observation is that weird to have an “official” end to a war that has never been officially declared.
As to whether we are in a new cold war now, i hope that whatever it is, it would redound to mankind’s benefit in general.
I think article’s thesis was cold war’s “official” end in 1989 (with gorbachev) but “actual” end in 1991 (with yeltsin).
My observation is that weird to have an “official” end to a war that has never been officially declared.
As to whether we are in a new cold war now, i hope that whatever it is, it would redound to mankind’s benefit in general.
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Uniqez
·I suspect this is either Vostok (they have done watches with Gorbachev and Bush before) or Poljet ( Yeltsin favorite watch brand). Can you take a closer picture of the dial, is there anything left at 12 o'clock that you could read?
Edited: This is ZIM watch. You can see the caliber ZIM 2602 written on the movement.
Edited: This is ZIM watch. You can see the caliber ZIM 2602 written on the movement.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Yes sir.
I think article’s thesis was cold war’s “official” end in 1989 (with gorbachev) but “actual” end in 1991 (with yeltsin).
My observation is that weird to have an “official” end to a war that has never been officially declared.
As to whether we are in a new cold war now, i hope that whatever it is, it would redound to mankind’s benefit in general.
kinda, but it’s a propaganda war. Military wise they are all bark no bite in the conventional realm.
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jsducote
·On a lighter note....I recall while I was working in Washington that during one of Yeltsin’s visits he was found outside the White House one night in his underwear by the Secret Service quite drunk attempting to hail a cab....he said he wanted to get a pizza.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentOn a lighter note....I recall while I was working in Washington that during one of Yeltsin’s visits he was found outside the White House one night in his underwear by the Secret Service quite drunk attempting to hail a cab....he said he wanted to get a pizza.
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Phil F
·I suspect this is either Vostok (they have done watches with Gorbachev and Bush before) or Poljet ( Yeltsin favorite watch brand). Can you take a closer picture of the dial, is there anything left at 12 o'clock that you could read?
Edited: This is ZIM watch. You can see the caliber ZIM 2602 written on the movement.
Thanks, I have not idea of all these brands. Anymore info you can share? I shall upload more pics once I get it on hand.
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pongster
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pongster
·^ Interesting you say that sir.
Got the kumanderskie from England. Dunno ultimate source.
Got the admiralksie from an online seller supposedly based in Ulraine. But it could have very well been Manila. I say this because there appears to be a surge of russian branded watches now in Manila. If i remember right, ive seen Poljot, Vostok and Sturmanskie. Not sure of provenance but am really intrigued by Gagarin’s watch (it’s just that all the different sturmanskies i see are labled Gagarin even if they dont look like what he wore on that first manned space flight).
To bring this back to Russian presidents, i hear Mr. Putin is a watch lover as well. Among others, he likes the Blancpain Aqualung I understand.
Got the kumanderskie from England. Dunno ultimate source.
Got the admiralksie from an online seller supposedly based in Ulraine. But it could have very well been Manila. I say this because there appears to be a surge of russian branded watches now in Manila. If i remember right, ive seen Poljot, Vostok and Sturmanskie. Not sure of provenance but am really intrigued by Gagarin’s watch (it’s just that all the different sturmanskies i see are labled Gagarin even if they dont look like what he wore on that first manned space flight).
To bring this back to Russian presidents, i hear Mr. Putin is a watch lover as well. Among others, he likes the Blancpain Aqualung I understand.
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Phil F
·I suspect this is either Vostok (they have done watches with Gorbachev and Bush before) or Poljet ( Yeltsin favorite watch brand). Can you take a closer picture of the dial, is there anything left at 12 o'clock that you could read?
Edited: This is ZIM watch. You can see the caliber ZIM 2602 written on the movement.
I've found a page saying quite clearly about this factory. https://mroatman.wixsite.com/watches-of-the-ussr/zim
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