What happened to new Seamasters 300m?

vadimo

Been to regent st to adjust the bracelet link on my 2015 seamaster 300m in blue, looked at new release and only to find that its characteristics have moved on:

- its larger diameter now at 42mm
- it's much thicker watch due to new movement
- wave dial is back

Overall watch felt much larger comparison to my 41mm, came across as more sport watch especially the wave pattern adding to it, it's no longer that watch that would strike balance between Bern sport and casual.

Is it just me?

Is Omega getting desperate? They used to have 2 designs black and blue, now it's like they are getting desperate...



https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watches/seamaster/diver-300-m/gents-collection/product

vadimo

Been to regent st to adjust the bracelet link on my 2015 seamaster 300m in blue, looked at new release and only to find that its characteristics have moved on:

- its larger diameter now at 42mm
- it's much thicker watch due to new movement
- wave dial is back

Overall watch felt much larger comparison to my 41mm, came across as more sport watch especially the wave pattern adding to it, it's no longer that watch that would strike balance between Bern sport and casual.

Is it just me?

Is Omega getting desperate? They used to have 2 designs black and blue, now it's like they are getting desperate...



https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watches/seamaster/diver-300-m/gents-collection/product

vadimo

Is Omega getting desperate?

vadimo

Been to regent st to adjust the bracelet link on my 2015 seamaster 300m in blue, looked at new release and only to find that its characteristics have moved on:

- its larger diameter now at 42mm
- it's much thicker watch due to new movement
- wave dial is back

Overall watch felt much larger comparison to my 41mm, came across as more sport watch especially the wave pattern adding to it, it's no longer that watch that would strike balance between Bern sport and casual.

Is it just me?

Is Omega getting desperate? They used to have 2 designs black and blue, now it's like they are getting desperate...



https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watches/seamaster/diver-300-m/gents-collection/product

M Motik

Curious to learn how we can know if a particular model is an "outstanding sale success". Do Omega publish sales figures?


No I asked the guys at the OB who I know well and have no need to bu!!shit me about these things.

vadimo

Been to regent st to adjust the bracelet link on my 2015 seamaster 300m in blue, looked at new release and only to find that its characteristics have moved on:

- its larger diameter now at 42mm
- it's much thicker watch due to new movement
- wave dial is back

Overall watch felt much larger comparison to my 41mm, came across as more sport watch especially the wave pattern adding to it, it's no longer that watch that would strike balance between Bern sport and casual.

Wetworks

The Diver 300M has been out for the better part of 8 months. While I understand (and appreciate) your personal observations and concerns, I think you're being a bit unfair as well. The new model seeks to bring back the core aspects of the original (bracelet, wave dial) while incorporating new tech (ceramics, movement) and making improvements (relocation of date window, bracelet fit/adjustment). So yea, it's thicker and larger (by a hair), but most would agree the improvements outweigh that 'sacrifice.'

ConElPueblo

While I am not sure what Bern sport is, I agree that it has grown too much now. The versions with the aluminium inlays were the best, IMO - the downward slope began when the thickness increased for the ones with ceramic bezel inlays. Some might say that is only a small size increase, but to me at least that increase matters a lot. Size-wise the Pro is growing closer to the Planet Ocean, which is a shame.




Well, the bracelet isn't exactly a return to a core aspect, is it? Nor are the ceramics "new tech" - and even discussing "new tech" in mechanical wrist watches is fairly difficult. How can you argue that an improvement (not my favourite term in this hobby, but let's just carry on using it here) in a technology that is long since antiquated is somehow weighing up a (subjective) worsening of the cosmetic factor and ergonomics of what is, basically, a piece of jewelry?

Wetworks

Sorry, made my post after a long work day and the laziness showed, but I thought everyone kind of got what I meant, as evidenced by the comments.

Wetworks

Anywho, I feel the bracelet is a core aspect, at least design-wise. Naturally the addition of steeper end links to settle the watch into the wrist, the elimination of friction pins, and of course the improved clasp, are changes, but the core of what the bracelet was remains the same IMO.

Wetworks

What I meant by new tech was the movement, of course. It's a significant improvement over the 1120 and 2500 (although the latter was a bigger leap forward). The size concerns are personal, as are opinions on aesthetics.

Wetworks

The thickness increases are the fault of not only the ceramic bezel inlays, but also because of the movements and display backs. Again, for me these are improvements that surpass the concerns of size increases, and Omega's success with the model seem to indicate many others feel the same way. You don't, which is fine. You also, if memory serves, aren't a modern Omega collector. Presumably, watches like this are a reason why. Again, no problem there for me. Your points about tech and watches as a technology are appreciated, but I feel it's a bit off. Sure, we all know they're wrist candy, but they still are purposeful. Additionally, is it wrong to geek out over an 8800 but okay to do so over a 751 simply because of when they were implemented? Both are beautiful, wonderfully engineered movements.

As for the OP, going shallowly off their profile pic, coupled with the ignorant statement about "2 designs in black and blue" leads me to believe that they are a new owner of the SMPc and, well, are basically saying "mine is the bestestest" or something similar. As the owner of the current version and the original, color me a fan of the new.

Additionally, is it wrong to geek out over an 8800 but okay to do so over a 751 simply because of when they were implemented?

3rdstringholder

Yes, it's just you. Far from desperate on Omega's part. What is "Bern sport"?

MichaelRay

Not just him, I feel the look is going more sport than dress/sport. I wouldn’t call it desperation, but I’m not a fan.

3rdstringholder

That's cool....At the end of the day, their only watches. Besides, everyone's opinion is highly subjective.

ConElPueblo

Sorry, what? Are you calling me stupid?




So not "bringing back core aspects" as you wrote but keeping core aspects? That was the part I questioned.




Those concerns are subjective yes, as are opinions on the changes to the movement. I could argue that since it has become larger and require more specialist knowledge/tools to service, it has become worse. Our viewpoints vary and that is just fine.



You seem to assume a lot of things here and your tone is frankly quite condescending.

Also, straw man arguments like this:



only makes you look insecure in your own argumentation. No-one said anything to that effect.

That last part about the OP's motives? Really nice way to address your fellow members.