What are you driving with your watch today?

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What are your initial impressions? This is very high up on my list after years of kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on the 1M.
Apparently the M2 is a true successor to the 1M with regards to everything except steering feedback. In other words, a continuation of everything except the ONLY thing that matters.
But all joking aside I miss the old hydraulic systems. The E46 M3 made you feel like the car was connected to your brain, even moreso than a 987 era Cayman.
 
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^yeah, that's what I've read and heard on them as well. Plus, I personally love the way the 1M looks.
 
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Apparently the M2 is a true successor to the 1M with regards to everything except steering feedback. In other words, a continuation of everything except the ONLY thing that matters.
But all joking aside I miss the old hydraulic systems. The E46 M3 made you feel like the car was connected to your brain, even moreso than a 987 era Cayman.
Funny you should mention that Car. I finally drove an S a few years ago and was left underwhelmed. It felt faster as it had more power low, but had the same turn exit speed and worse straight away speed. Glad I went with the car with a very useable rear seat and huge trunk. Sure the Cayman had better transitions but at Willowsprings it didn't matter... autocross the I'm sure the Cayman S has a slight edge.
 
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What are your initial impressions? This is very high up on my list after years of kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on the 1M.

Still in the break-in period so haven't really thrashed it yet, but overall I'm happy so far. Literally just finished having a conversation with someone who was here about a watch regarding the electronic steering. I would much rather have a hydraulic rack and pinion system like my Z4M had, and yes I would rather have a naturally aspirated engine as well, but the realities of cars today (and fuel economy requirements) are limitations that are difficult to escape on many new cars.

The steering feel in this is far better than in my wife's 335, so I'm pleased with that certainly, but it's not the same as the old systems are. I would also prefer to blip the throttle myself on downshifts, have a dipstick to check the oil, etc., but again not the times we live in apparently. I'm not going to be racing this car, so although I'm sure some here would not like the car for many reasons, I like it very much so far. I still do miss the Z4M though...this is definitely not "Fred Flintstone's car" as the Hamster once described the Z4M (and yes that one still had a dipstick for the oil).

Cheers, Al
 
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Funny you should mention that Car. I finally drove an S a few years ago and was left underwhelmed. It felt faster as it had more power low, but had the same turn exit speed and worse straight away speed. Glad I went with the car with a very useable rear seat and huge trunk. Sure the Cayman had better transitions but at Willowsprings it didn't matter... autocross the I'm sure the Cayman S has a slight edge.
I DD a 987 Boxster after having an e92 coupe and can confirm everything you just wrote. However because I'm a vain, selfish douchbro with a full head of hair the top down driving experience trumps all practicalities and visceral driving dynamics.
 
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Still in the break-in period so haven't really thrashed it yet, but overall I'm happy so far. Literally just finished having a conversation with someone who was here about a watch regarding the electronic steering. I would much rather have a hydraulic rack and pinion system like my Z4M had, and yes I would rather have a naturally aspirated engine as well, but the realities of cars today (and fuel economy requirements) are limitations that are difficult to escape on many new cars.

The steering feel in this is far better than in my wife's 335, so I'm pleased with that certainly, but it's not the same as the old systems are. I would also prefer to blip the throttle myself on downshifts, have a dipstick to check the oil, etc., but again not the times we live in apparently. I'm not going to be racing this car, so although I'm sure some here would not like the car for many reasons, I like it very much so far. I still do miss the Z4M though...this is definitely not "Fred Flintstone's car" as the Hamster once described the Z4M (and yes that one still had a dipstick for the oil).

Cheers, Al
Funny you mention preferring a naturally aspirated engine, I'm strongly considering an E90 M3, but have only ever owned turbo charged cars, and am worried I might miss the kick in the pants. I hear what you're saying about the modernization, but as far as modern cars go, it still seems the M2 is one of the most "pure". I'm sure you'll enjoy it, and congrats!
 
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Funny you mention preferring a naturally aspirated engine, I'm strongly considering an E90 M3, but have only ever owned turbo charged cars, and am worried I might miss the kick in the pants. I hear what you're saying about the modernization, but as far as modern cars go, it still seems the M2 is one of the most "pure". I'm sure you'll enjoy it, and congrats!

The v8 in the last-gen M3 is an uproarious pleasure. While the torque readings below ~3k are crushed by the modern BMW turbos the engine races so quickly past that mark it doesn't even matter. That being said, be ready to burn through petrol like a doof warrior.

That being said @Archer made the best choice available in new BMWs. Hopefully they'll continually work on tweaking the EPS - the first gen F30 felt like a Logitech steering wheel.
 
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top down driving experience trumps all practicalities and visceral driving dynamics as long as it's sunny out and at least 65 degrees

FIFY 😉

I DD my S2000 and while yes it's not as refined as a Porsche (understatement) I'd be surprised if the Boxster didn't suck to drive with the top up, compared to a coupe
 
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The v8 in the last-gen M3 is an uproarious pleasure. While the torque readings below ~3k are crushed by the modern BMW turbos the engine races so quickly past that mark it doesn't even matter. That being said, be ready to burn through petrol like a doof warrior.
Totally agree 😀
 
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The v8 in the last-gen M3 is an uproarious pleasure. While the torque readings below ~3k are crushed by the modern BMW turbos the engine races so quickly past that mark it doesn't even matter. That being said, be ready to burn through petrol like a doof warrior.

That being said @Archer made the best choice available in new BMWs. Hopefully they'll continually work on tweaking the EPS - the first gen F30 felt like a Logitech steering wheel.

I agree the M2 is the best available right now. I'll admit I'm biased but I prefer the S54 in the e46m over the e9x m v8. The 4 door e90m is a great package but vs a e92 coupe I'd take the e46. The v8 feels low on torque when driving it. Sure it picked up 70hp but only 30 lbf.
 
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Funny you mention preferring a naturally aspirated engine, I'm strongly considering an E90 M3, but have only ever owned turbo charged cars, and am worried I might miss the kick in the pants. I hear what you're saying about the modernization, but as far as modern cars go, it still seems the M2 is one of the most "pure". I'm sure you'll enjoy it, and congrats!

The V8 M3 may be better as it has a little more displacement but the 3.6l in my 997 doesn't really pick up its skirts and fly until 3K rpms, below that it feels quick but not all that pokey compared with the turbo cars I have driven. What doesn't help on cars like this is the long gearing, the six speed on the 911 runs out of revs at 182mph which means that 6th is really only a cruising gear and if you want to make progress you have to stick to 2-4 which isn't great for economy!

As a dd I also run a BMW 125d which is a Europe only distant relation of Archer's M2 and has a twin turbo 2.0l diesel engine with about 225hp and has damn near the same torque peak as the M2 (450Nm vs 465Nm), obviously developed in a much lower range but this does mean it feels really quick about town and away from the lights, though no where near as fun of course.
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Funny you mention preferring a naturally aspirated engine, I'm strongly considering an E90 M3, but have only ever owned turbo charged cars, and am worried I might miss the kick in the pants. I hear what you're saying about the modernization, but as far as modern cars go, it still seems the M2 is one of the most "pure". I'm sure you'll enjoy it, and congrats!

Thanks. It wasn't easy to get one so I'm pleased I was able to get deposits in at a couple of places, and lucked out when someone backed out of their deal and I was next in line. One dealer told me initially that he would have a build date in 2-3 weeks after I placed my deposit (this was last summer), only to come back in January of this year to tell me I would not likely get a car in 2017 at all. 😡

The dealer I ended up getting it from said that so far only 13 have been delivered for the 2017 model in Canada...
 
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How about something other than photos? My wife was taking the M2 today, so I thought I'd shoot a video of the start-up to get some sounds...


Sounds a little more raw and mean than my Z4M did...
 
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Ouch! Thankfully, not mine.


Hope there was nobody in it. The car? No great loss IMO.
 
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How about something other than photos? My wife was taking the M2 today, so I thought I'd shoot a video of the start-up to get some sounds...


Sounds a little more raw and mean than my Z4M did...

I've seen this M2 in person and it's killer. I'm quite sure I heard Al say that I could borrow it any time.....😉
 
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I've seen this M2 in person and it's killer. I'm quite sure I heard Al say that I could borrow it any time.....😉

You have to beat me at tennis first, then I'll consider it (not). 😉