Water Resistance: Regular vs. METAS?

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Hello all!

I recently got into a small argument on another website with a person claiming their 3861 Speedy Pro had better water resistance than my 1861 Speedy Pro because of the METAS certification. I explained to this person that while METAS verifies the 50m of water resistance, 50m is 50m no matter where it’s tested, as long as the test is done properly. The way I see it, Omega saying a watch has 50m water resistance is just as good as METAS saying it. Of course METAS certification carries a lot of other benefits, but when it comes to WR, 50m is 50m.

Is my thinking completely wrong?
 
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Yes, your thinking is completely wrong that you could actually win an argument with someone who thinks this way on the Internet. LOL!

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In Luxury Watch World METAS Water Resistance blows Regular Watch Resistance Out Of Water!
 
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Omega does their own METAS 50m testing where they used to do the 1861 50m testing. They just put a sign on the door that says METAS
 
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It's quite obvious that METAS 50M testing is also accounting for dynamic pressure, not just the standard SI standard fifty metres, so it's another step above the old fashioned 50M testing.

I'd prefer a 50M METAS watch over a standard watch that could sustain integrity to 50 metres depth any day.
 
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It's quite obvious that METAS 50M testing is also accounting for dynamic pressure, not just the standard SI standard fifty metres, so it's another step above the old fashioned 50M testing.

I'd prefer a 50M METAS watch over a standard watch that could sustain integrity to 50 metres depth any day.
But wouldn't Metas testing of 50m in Switzerland be like -50m in the Southern hemisphere.::stirthepot::
 
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But wouldn't Metas testing of 50m in Switzerland be like -50m in the Southern hemisphere.::stirthepot::

Where in the Southern Hemisphere? There are no watch manufacturing/testing facilities at 47º South (the antipodean equivalent of Switzerland), the closest is Nick Hacko in Sydney at 33.8º South.

If the Swiss were really serious about depth testing and certification they would do it at the Equator, where forces are centrifugally multiplied, especially dynamic water forces, but "Oh No", the easier thing to do is use "Swiss" calculations.
 
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Where in the Southern Hemisphere? There are no watch manufacturing/testing facilities at 47º South (the antipodean equivalent of Switzerland), the closest is Nick Hacko in Sydney at 33.8º South.

If the Swiss were really serious about depth testing and certification they would do it at the Equator, where forces are centrifugally multiplied, especially dynamic water forces, but "Oh No", the easier thing to do is use "Swiss" calculations.

Come to Darwin for your 50m water testing. I will take you out to 50meters
 
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Come to Darwin for your 50m water testing. I will take you out to 50meters

50 metres off Darwin?

The Noah's would get you before the crocs had time to warm up after their last breakfast.
 
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50 metres off Darwin?

The Noah's would get you before the crocs had time to warm up after their last breakfast.

Box jellyfish will make you easy prey for either 😗
 
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Hello all!

I recently got into a small argument on another website with a person claiming their 3861 Speedy Pro had better water resistance than my 1861 Speedy Pro because of the METAS certification. I explained to this person that while METAS verifies the 50m of water resistance, 50m is 50m no matter where it’s tested, as long as the test is done properly. The way I see it, Omega saying a watch has 50m water resistance is just as good as METAS saying it. Of course METAS certification carries a lot of other benefits, but when it comes to WR, 50m is 50m.

Is my thinking completely wrong?

You are correct. METAS watches are not tested any differently for water resistance than others that Omega has made.
 
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Hello all!

I recently got into a small argument on another website with a person claiming their 3861 Speedy Pro had better water resistance than my 1861 Speedy Pro because of the METAS certification. I explained to this person that while METAS verifies the 50m of water resistance, 50m is 50m no matter where it’s tested, as long as the test is done properly. The way I see it, Omega saying a watch has 50m water resistance is just as good as METAS saying it. Of course METAS certification carries a lot of other benefits, but when it comes to WR, 50m is 50m.

Is my thinking completely wrong?

You are correct.
 
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It's quite obvious that METAS 50M testing is also accounting for dynamic pressure, not just the standard SI standard fifty metres, so it's another step above the old fashioned 50M testing.

I'd prefer a 50M METAS watch over a standard watch that could sustain integrity to 50 metres depth any day.

Interesting. How do they implement the dynamic pressure ? Are the watches moved in any way whilst submerged and under pressure ?
 
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Interesting. How do they implement the dynamic pressure ? Are the watches moved in any way whilst submerged and under pressure ?

Dynamic pressure doesn’t exist unless you can swim 90mph 🤦
 
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Dynamic pressure doesn’t exist unless you can swim 90mph 🤦

In physics dynamic and static pressure are real, different and measurable. The way I imagine a watches batch could be tested for dynamic pressure would be to submerge at atmospheric pressure and rotate at a velocity which would create a 5 bar dynamic pressure.

The static pressure test could be done by just submerging a watch batch and increasing the pressure to 5 bar gauge.

Another test would be to combine both… but I digress as I do not fathom how a diver would cause a significant dynamic pressure when completely under water, even at a low depth. This however can be done whilst slapping the water from the surface.
 
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In physics dynamic and static pressure are real, different and measurable. The way I imagine a watches batch could be tested for dynamic pressure would be to submerge at atmospheric pressure and rotate at a velocity which would create a 5 bar dynamic pressure.

The static pressure test could be done by just submerging a watch batch and increasing the pressure to 5 bar gauge.

Another test would be to combine both… but I digress as I do not fathom how a diver would cause a significant dynamic pressure when completely under water, even at a low depth. This however can be done whilst slapping the water from the surface.

Unless you are strapping you watch to your outboard motor, you don't have much to worry about with dynamic pressure..

 
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Unless you are strapping you watch to your outboard motor, you don't have much to worry about with dynamic pressure..

A man after my own heart!
 
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Jokes and whatnot aside, Omega does actually test some of its watches past the stated resistance. I was reading about how they do an extra 25% or something depth for the Ultra Deep during testing, cant remember where the article is now though.

So 50M rating for one watch/brand might actually differ from 50M for another 😜