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JwRosenthal
·@DaveK & @Duracuir1 - If I use saffron rice from the Indian takeout, will I get that lovely custard patina on luminova? Inquiring minds want to know.
Water intrusion…having a meltdown
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DaveK
··Yoda of Yodelers@DaveK & @Duracuir1 - If I use saffron rice from the Indian takeout, will I get that lovely custard patina on luminova? Inquiring minds want to know.
@Duracuir1 has written extensively on this, so I’ll let him respond. But, let me be the first to congratulate you for being well on you me way to an excellent plastic container collection 👍
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gbesq
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p4ul
·Is it better to use whole grain brown rice - more water absorption than white rice? What about Arborio rice? That stuff really sucks up the broth when I make risotto! Does Minute Rice remove the water faster? Finally, if I'm out of rice, can I substitute quinoa? Man, this stuff is complicated. 😲
Is Uncle Ben a forum member?
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaI would think that Damp-Rid or any other dessicant is better than raw rice.
WARNING
It's EXTREMELY important to not use Damp Rid.
It's based on Calcium Chloride and is highly corrosive to metals.
For emergency drying, the safest stuff is silica gel which can be obtained from many sources. I use packets of it in my safes and in my camera cases and have never had any corrosion issues.
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DaveK
··Yoda of YodelersIs it better to use whole grain brown rice - more water absorption than white rice? What about Arborio rice? That stuff really sucks up the broth when I make risotto! Does Minute Rice remove the water faster? Finally, if I'm out of rice, can I substitute quinoa? Man, this stuff is complicated. 😲
Brown rice would be fine, but I’d avoid quinoa because it’s hard to spell and therefore might not work as well. A recent Hodinkee article talked about using Vietnamese rice, but note that it can turn the lume brown by a reaction called Pho-tina.
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorFinally, if I'm out of rice, can I substitute quinoa?
You will have to set some Hipster traps to get quinoa……Trap a hipster and follow him home to his vegan girlfriend 😁😁
https://jeffgreenspan.com/traps/
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p4ul
·Should this thread be moved to the Beads of Rice sub forum?
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EuroDriver
·And as a last resort, this also works very well
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TexOmega
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YouTube videos recommended 1/2 Blinker fluid mixed with 1/2 Headlamp fluid for best results. Something about a neutral ph.
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Yehoshua
·Even with the HEV crown unscrewed, the watch has 30m (or is it 50m?) water resistance unless internal pressure unseated the relief valve at the same time the watch was being rinsed. Or the watch is past due on service and a seal failed in the interim. Unfortunate, if so, but I would open it up and let it dry out while booking a service immediately. I'd be contacting every watchmaker I could and not just rely on Omega, my AD, or a boutique.
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Pastorbottle
·When I’ve had soggy watches, I always take of the case back immediately, either put inside a window with the sun on it, or if it’s a shitty day in a room with a dry heat source such as an reverse cycle air- conditioner or failing that an electric fan heater will do (not directly blowing on it but across it close above) should buy you time until it can be dealt with properly.
Back when I used to do a lot of marine work, people would bring in outboard motors that had either fallen of the back of the boat, or got drowned when the boat had sunk, to their horror, the first thing I’d do was wheel it out to the jetty, attach a chain to it, and throw the bastard into the lake until I’d get around to working on it.
It was better off in the water where the corrosive effects of oxygen exposure were greatly lessened.
Now don’t do this to your watch as you most likely only have a very small amount of water ingress ( there’s on point getting water into where it hasn’t got yet)
I only really mentioned this so as to point out that you need to act quickly and if that’s not possible then you need to adopt a harm minimisation strategy…. Damage control if you like.
Sometimes you need to do something counterintuitive to solve problems.
Best of luck
Back when I used to do a lot of marine work, people would bring in outboard motors that had either fallen of the back of the boat, or got drowned when the boat had sunk, to their horror, the first thing I’d do was wheel it out to the jetty, attach a chain to it, and throw the bastard into the lake until I’d get around to working on it.
It was better off in the water where the corrosive effects of oxygen exposure were greatly lessened.
Now don’t do this to your watch as you most likely only have a very small amount of water ingress ( there’s on point getting water into where it hasn’t got yet)
I only really mentioned this so as to point out that you need to act quickly and if that’s not possible then you need to adopt a harm minimisation strategy…. Damage control if you like.
Sometimes you need to do something counterintuitive to solve problems.
Best of luck
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JwRosenthal
·^^ Back in the day if you dropped a camera in salt water, the solution was to quickly dunk it into a bucket of fresh water several times (dumping and refilling the fresh water) to flush the salt out. Like above, seemed counter intuitive but the goal was to flush out the salt and then dry it in the oven at low temp (under 150 degrees if possible). This was not a fix, just a stop-gap until it could get too a repairman to disassemble,
The rice trick, as commented several posts above, is not “the fix”, rather an easily available countermeasure until it can get to a watchmaker.
There was a thread posted about a year ago or two ago by a member who was on vacation and had a vintage sub leak while swimming. Without access to tools or a watchmaker (and hopefully not going to wreck his family’s vacation by freaking out and packing up the family to fly home to fix his watch), a convenient stop-gap would have been to hit a grocery market and grab a ziplock and a bag of rice. Open the crown and leave it in the bag until he got home. Obviously a real desiccant would be better- but we gotta work with what’s available.
The rice trick, as commented several posts above, is not “the fix”, rather an easily available countermeasure until it can get to a watchmaker.
There was a thread posted about a year ago or two ago by a member who was on vacation and had a vintage sub leak while swimming. Without access to tools or a watchmaker (and hopefully not going to wreck his family’s vacation by freaking out and packing up the family to fly home to fix his watch), a convenient stop-gap would have been to hit a grocery market and grab a ziplock and a bag of rice. Open the crown and leave it in the bag until he got home. Obviously a real desiccant would be better- but we gotta work with what’s available.
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sheepdoll
·When I’ve had soggy watches, I always take of the case back immediately, either put inside a window with the sun on it, or if it’s a shitty day in a room with a dry heat source such as an reverse cycle air- conditioner or failing that an electric fan heater will do (not directly blowing on it but across it close above) should buy you time until it can be dealt with properly.
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Ahhh. That explains why many of my rusty watches are missing the back of the movement.
I have a grower friend up in the north part of the state. Also an electro mechanical engineer. Got a case of those cards that come with sealed microchips that say 'bake if dot is pink.' Actually if you bake the card the dot will turn blue again.
I tend to leave the silica gel packets in boxes. Even where they do not belong. I am told (I think by the same friend.) that they wear out quickly one the package seals are opened. The can however be rejuvenated by baking them in a warm oven.
When things do go too far, I have been having good luck with Evap-O-Rust. Bergeon makes something similar. The tricky part is sorting the 60 or so screws in something like a Val-72.
My uncle tended to drop his fancy Nikon at family gatherings into the lake. (I think it happened twice.) So it was immediately put into a bag fresh water, as I recall an ice chest. till they could get it into the bag of rice.
The canon FT I got a year ago had rust in the lower part where all the gears are. As luck would have it the part camera was in better shape so I actually restored the parts camera. That was before the current Evap-O-Rust experiments. It was actually some lens disassembly videos that got me back into watchmaking. You tube is sneaky when they say "You may also like..." Never did take the cheap lens apart to clean it ...
We still have an outboard motor in the storage shed. The boat has long since rotted away. It was a portable Zodiac. You would assemble the keel plates then pump up the pontoons with a compressor. Handled really well, even in choppy water. The motor has not been used in 50 years and stored in a leaky metal lean to. Cute little thing. About the smallest outboard you ever did see.
I could have easily got interested in boat building. But they are holes in the water. A 1950s book on photography stated "Open your billfold, take out a 50 dollar bill. Drop it out the window. That is what your hobby will feel like." 50 back then was more like a thousand now in purchasing power. Even now the lenses remain pricey. Fortunately I had access to community and Neighbors darkrooms. The most interesting was Edward Weston's darkroom, which the family still had. The high school darkroom on the other hand was more modern.
As for watches, they are a torroid on your wrist you strap money onto. I think the torrioid have become flipped over on itself and become a mobius strip.
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7enderbender
·The problem with that is, that it's going to take Omega days - if not weeks to get to it. By then, sitting moisture may cause permanent damage.
Any remedial measure taken in the interim may prove helpful.
That’s one problem. The other is that, with Omega in the US at least, you don’t know where the watch will actually go for service. I’m my case (my wife’s Constellation) it went to random contractors who did a horrible job. Twice. Wouldn’t use them again and next time one of our Omegas needs service they will go to Switzerland or Munich. Had watches there before and the service is at another level. Omega needs to get their act together here in the US.
With Rolex you can at least deal with the service center directly (and pick Dallas over New York by simply mailing it directly - as opposed to leaving the decision to the people running the store with the rented Rolex logo). Omega runs their own boutiques so they should have control over this but apparently don’t. I’m aware of the shortage of qualified personell in this country…
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe other is that, with Omega in the US at least, you don’t know where the watch will actually go for service. I’m my case (my wife’s Constellation) it went to random contractors who did a horrible job. Twice.
Can you please expand on this? Are you saying that the watch went to an Omega service center, and that service center sent it out to a contractor?
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7enderbender
·Can you please expand on this? Are you saying that the watch went to an Omega service center, and that service center sent it out to a contractor?
i think I had posted the story a while back. Basically it was a standard service for my wife’s Constellation women’s automatic. Brought it to an authorized dealer in Boston at the time and they first sent it to some Omega certified place in New Jersey. No communication, didn’t replace a scratched crystal or offered to do so, scratched and bent the clasp. Watch stopped running a few weeks in. We happened to be in Switzerland at the time and the people at the Omega Boutique there took a look and were basically just shaking their heads at what they saw. We didn’t have time to have them work on it and I didn’t want to leave in given the cost and hassle (especially since Omega/third party hadn’t entered any warranty information into whatever system they have). So I decided to take it back home. Store submitted it to some place in Florida under warranty. At least they got it running again. Still no new crystal or or really any explanation of what happened or how this is supposed to go.
So, like I said, next time any Omega of ours that needs service will stay in Switzerland or Munich (where I had my Speedy reduced last and it runs spot on) as we usually travel there every now and so often and/or have people from there come visit. Involved, but can be done. I wouldn’t try to mail it internationally or deal with customs on either end.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified Watchmakeri think I had posted the story a while back. Basically it was a standard service for my wife’s Constellation women’s automatic. Brought it to an authorized dealer in Boston at the time and they first sent it to some Omega certified place in New Jersey.
Okay - that makes some sense. I think maybe being more specific in your wording would be helpful. This is not "Omega" doing this, it's your specific AD. I don't think this is something that you can condemn "Omega in the US" for, as that's a very broad brush you are painting with an AD who did something that they shouldn't have done.
Not the first account of this that I have seen - it happened at an AD in Toronto years ago...
European Jewellers Fraud | WatchUSeek Watch Forums
In the end, Omega stepped up and serviced the watch free of charge.
The issue here isn't Omega's service, it's your shady AD...
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