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SeamasterBond007
·Hey everyone, wondering if there is any information on new 2023 releases from Omega? Any thoughts on the current new releases announced today?
Watches and Wonders/Omega Days
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speedy_fan
·No information as of now. You might want to follow their social media for most updated information.
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Caliber561
·I do wonder if they'll have anything to respond to the fact that the Rolex group appears to be positioning Tudor as the primary competitor to Omega with the aim of certifying all of its watches to the METAS standard. A lot of people are going to see that parity as Omega being closer to Tudor than Rolex.
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BenzBhoy
·I do wonder if they'll have anything to respond to the fact that the Rolex group appears to be positioning Tudor as the primary competitor to Omega with the aim of certifying all of its watches to the METAS standard. A lot of people are going to see that parity as Omega being closer to Tudor than Rolex.
That is wishful thinking on Rolex part, having looked closely at a Pelagos… there is no comparison to Omega. Maybe Rolex are starting to hurt and are desperate to try and keep their PR fire stoked!
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Dsloan
·I do wonder if they'll have anything to respond to the fact that the Rolex group appears to be positioning Tudor as the primary competitor to Omega with the aim of certifying all of its watches to the METAS standard. A lot of people are going to see that parity as Omega being closer to Tudor than Rolex.
The pricing certainly seems to indicate this - the original BB41 was released 5 years ago with an ETA movement and cost $2.6K on a leather strap. The new one with in house movement is just over $4K.
I own a few Tudors and like them quite a bit, but the new pricing feels like a stretch to me.
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scapa
·That is wishful thinking on Rolex part, having looked closely at a Pelagos… there is no comparison to Omega. Maybe Rolex are starting to hurt and are desperate to try and keep their PR fire stoked!
I love my Pelagos, but it cost me less than the new BB41.
Every watch marque that can is pushing upwards. I prefer the older BB36/41, but have no doubt that this one will sell.
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GoBlueJedi
·That is wishful thinking on Rolex part, having looked closely at a Pelagos… there is no comparison to Omega. Maybe Rolex are starting to hurt and are desperate to try and keep their PR fire stoked!
Evidently, neither of them can make a sporty GMT that's less than 14mm thick. So they have that in common. I guess to get something like that, you gotta get to the tippy top echelon. Like Longines. Or Certina.
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Aroxx
·Tudor makes a beautiful dial but they have this one teeny tiny giant problem…
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McBeardy
·The pricing certainly seems to indicate this - the original BB41 was released 5 years ago with an ETA movement and cost $2.6K on a leather strap. The new one with in house movement is just over $4K.
I own a few Tudors and like them quite a bit, but the new pricing feels like a stretch to me.
Same can be said for Omega, Speedy now £7,400 compared roughly £4k before the 3861
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spacemission
·Nowadays omega = rolex.
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Annapolis
·All the prices are nuts Sinn is the new Tudor. Tudor's the new Omega. Omega's the new Rolex. Rolex is trying to be... the new PP? AP?
Yeah with the 1908 and the open-caseback PT950 Daytona, I had the same thought: Rolex is trying to reenvision itself as a brand competing (at least in part) with the Holy Trinity. To be fair, the 1908 is a fantastic-looking watch, and the movements appear to be finished at an extremely high level. For 22k, the 1908 is a serious proposition: I'd have to think hard before deciding whether to go with that or an entry-level Calatrava. (Then I'd probably make the smart choice and get a JLC.)
Whatever. The Sub has the best bezel-action I've ever felt, and it's historically indispensable. But to my eyes, the Seamaster is a much more interesting watch---better design, better price, better availability, and it won't bring any annoying attention or make people assume you're a douchebag for wearing one. The Daytona is fine if you're into chronographs (I'm not), but the MoonWatch is superior in most every way. OP/AT/Datejust, etc?---six and one half dozen, as far as I'm concerned, with a preference for the AT bracelet. The one place, IMO, where Rolex has Omega squarely beaten is with the Day-Date line.
Each brand is different with its own unique contributions--it might be impossible (or unproductive) to think in terms of equivalents or direct competitors, even if that's what the brands themselves do. For me, Rolex has pretty much lost its luster by getting too hyped. I've had several and just can't feel comfortable wearing them anymore---feels like it sends a message I don't want to send: "I'm doing this so that other people will notice." But I suppose that's my problem.
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Caliber561
·Yeah with the 1908 and the open-caseback PT950 Daytona, I had the same thought: Rolex is trying to reenvision itself as a brand competing (at least in part) with the Holy Trinity. To be fair, the 1908 is a fantastic-looking watch, and the movements appear to be finished at an extremely high level. For 22k, the 1908 is a serious proposition: I'd have to think hard before deciding whether to go with that or an entry-level Calatrava. (Then I'd probably make the smart choice and get a JLC.)
I was thinking the same at first, but apparently Rolex was too cheap to actually come out with a true sub-seconds calibre. The movement has a central seconds hand, it's just capped with a pin, not unlike what some microbrands do with ETA and Sellita movements when they're trying to get that 2-hander look.
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DrmexicoII
·I was thinking the same at first, but apparently Rolex was too cheap to actually come out with a true sub-seconds calibre. The movement has a central seconds hand, it's just capped with a pin, not unlike what some microbrands do with ETA and Sellita movements when they're trying to get that 2-hander look.
Just when I was finally getting excited about a rolex launch... Probably just as well as I never would've got one. Still, I think this is the nicest looking rolex in years.
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Annapolis
·I was thinking the same at first, but apparently Rolex was too cheap to actually come out with a true sub-seconds calibre. The movement has a central seconds hand, it's just capped with a pin, not unlike what some microbrands do with ETA and Sellita movements when they're trying to get that 2-hander look.
Hunh. Are you 100% on this? Because the watch does have small seconds in that 6 o'clock subdial, right? So you're saying the movement is actually a center-seconds one and then they've somehow rigged it up to a subdial and capped off the center post?
Not saying you're wrong---I don't have the knowledge to make an assertion either way. But Rolex did create a new movement for this watch (the 7140), and they do all their own in-house stuff: it seems out of character that they'd launch a new watch with a brand new movement and then just b.s. their way through it like this... And it's not like they've never had small seconds movements before.
With apologies to the OP, whose thread is now thoroughly hijacked. 😀
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ErichPryde
·it won't bring any annoying attention or make people assume you're a douchebag for wearing one.
I'd really like to meet the exception to this rule. I'm sure they exist.
