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Yes. The French are exactly the same as those illegal Mediterranean immigrants! And I don't trust the Greeks either!
 
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For sure if a crime was committed it must be an "illegal". Same narrative in the states yet....

"The criminal conviction and arrest rates for immigrants were well below those of native-born Americans," Cato's Alex Nowrasteh wrote.

According to the libertarian think tank's analysis, the rate per 100,000 residents in each subpopulation was 899 for undocumented immigrants, 611 for legal immigrants and 1,797 for native-born Americans."
 
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"The criminal conviction and arrest rates for immigrants were well below those of native-born Americans," Cato's Alex Nowrasteh wrote

Yeah, but native-born crooks are nicer. They just steal all your 401K savings...
 
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For sure if a crime was committed it must be an "illegal". Same narrative in the states yet....

"The criminal conviction and arrest rates for immigrants were well below those of native-born Americans," Cato's Alex Nowrasteh wrote.

According to the libertarian think tank's analysis, the rate per 100,000 residents in each subpopulation was 899 for undocumented immigrants, 611 for legal immigrants and 1,797 for native-born Americans."

What is the world coming to when a fella can't even wear his $150,000 Breguet Tourbillon around the streets like a total jackass 馃.
 
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Stabbings in London is very much confined to youth gangs in very specific areas.
Oh well that's OK then mate! 馃榿

I was born in London in 1957. I grew up in a vibrant city in the 1960's and 1970's. I've lived and worked in a number of London Boroughs. Yes we had crime issues and a bit of Irish terrorism to deal with. We did not have anywhere near the level of gang and drug related violence that we have now. I worked in the construction industry and could leave my tools, locked in my van, for more than half hour without it being wrenched open and robbed in broad daylight.

It really started going down hill in the 1990's. I remember driving home from work, through Walthamstow, when I spotted a young chap on top of a screaming young Woman.

Another motorist and myself dragged the guy off of her and waved down a passing fire brigade truck. The Firemen called for Police assistance, but in the time it took the Police to arrive, an angry crowd threatened the Firemen and led the attacker away so that he could escape. When the police arrived the Firemen and myself had to be escorted to safety. The attacker was not arrested because the Police feared it could spark a riot in the street.

That kind of thing didn't happen in the London I grew up in mate! You need to compare London to how it was before, and then consider the reasons that have contributed to it's down hill slide.
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For sure if a crime was committed it must be an "illegal". Same narrative in the states yet....

"The criminal conviction and arrest rates for immigrants were well below those of native-born Americans," Cato's Alex Nowrasteh wrote.

According to the libertarian think tank's analysis, the rate per 100,000 residents in each subpopulation was 899 for undocumented immigrants, 611 for legal immigrants and 1,797 for native-born Americans."

What was the ratio per sub-population? Total numbers really doesn't do a great job telling the whole story.
 
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What is the world coming to when a fella can't even wear his $150,000 Breguet Tourbillon around the streets like a total jackass 馃.

Wonderful example of victim blaming right here. While everyone who wears an expensive watch bears some responsibility in being aware of their surroundings (aka common sense), I fail to see why this guy should be considered a "jackass" for wearing what he owns. If he owns something on that level, he likely owns others. Who knows, maybe this was a beater in the grand scheme of his collection!
 
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What was the ratio per sub-population? Total numbers really doesn't do a great job telling the whole story.

@Faz鈥檚 post explicitly says those are numbers per 100,000 in each sub-population.
 
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As long as the crime rate of illegals is under the native-born Americans it is OK. Really want to be inclusive here. The fact that somebody is in the country illegally should not exclude them from the right to be a criminal.
 
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@Faz鈥檚 post explicitly says those are numbers per 100,000 in each sub-population.
My bad, I read population. 馃槵
 
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As long as the crime rate of illegals is under the native-born Americans it is OK. Really want to be inclusive here. The fact that somebody is in the country illegally should not exclude them from the right to be a criminal.

And it also had better not exclude them from the right to police protection, since we can all understand the consequences of having a large shadow population dealing with crime outside of the criminal justice system.
 
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Oh well that's OK then mate! 馃榿

I was born in London in 1957. I grew up in a vibrant city in the 1960's and 1970's. I've lived and worked in a number of London Boroughs. Yes we had crime issues and a bit of Irish terrorism to deal with. We did not have anywhere near the level of gang and drug related violence that we have now. I worked in the construction industry and could leave my tools, locked in my van, for more than half hour without it being wrenched open and robbed in broad daylight.

It really started going down hill in the 1990's. I remember driving home from work, through Walthamstow, when I spotted a young chap on top of a screaming young Woman.

Another motorist and myself dragged the guy off of her and waved down a passing fire brigade truck. The Firemen called for Police assistance, but in the time it took the Police to arrive, an angry crowd threatened the Firemen and led the attacker away so that he could escape. When the police arrived the Firemen and myself had to be escorted to safety. The attacker was not arrested because the Police feared it could spark a riot in the street.

That kind of thing didn't happen in the London I grew up in mate! You need to compare London to how it was before, and then consider the reasons that have contributed to it's down hill slide.

I've lived in London for all but about 8 of my 57 years and still do. Apart from a few pockets it's perfectly safe. There's always been gang violence and there's always been violence against persons. It's invariably within sub-groups and the vast majority are not affected. Read too many sensationalist newspapers and you might think otherwise, but the reality is you can walk around London without fear.

As for terrorism, how many incidents have there been in London in the last 10 years? 3?4?
 
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Wonderful example of victim blaming right here. While everyone who wears an expensive watch bears some responsibility in being aware of their surroundings (aka common sense), I fail to see why this guy should be considered a "jackass" for wearing what he owns. If he owns something on that level, he likely owns others. Who knows, maybe this was a beater in the grand scheme of his collection!

Honestly, I would dream of blaming the victim. My animus is mostly classism.

But I am being flippant. The guy seems decent enough (has a nice friendly face anyway). And it seems there has been at least 2 watch-theft related murders in London in the last couple of years.
 
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"The criminal conviction and arrest rates "
A close friend used to work as a bounty hunter crossing the Mexican border to bring back Mexican illegals who had committed crimes in the USA then ducked back across the border.
In order to be arrested and convicted you have to be caught first. When a person is already keeping a low profile and using a fake ID, as the Illegal who killed my cousin was, its not quiet so easy to bring them in. The same illegal had ducked back across the border on six other occasions, returning with a new fake ID.
The stats just prove that native born Americans are more likely to be caught.
 
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The stats just prove that native born Americans are more likely to be caught.

That is an assertion without evidence.
 
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What is the world coming to when a fella can't even wear his $150,000 Breguet Tourbillon around the streets like a total jackass 馃.
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As long as the crime rate of illegals is under the native-born Americans it is OK. Really want to be inclusive here. The fact that somebody is in the country illegally should not exclude them from the right to be a criminal.
The point was that some immediately assume they were "illegals" without a shred of evidence.
 
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I've lived in London for all but about 8 of my 57 years and still do. Apart from a few pockets it's perfectly safe.....

As for terrorism, how many incidents have there been in London in the last 10 years? 3?4?

Ouch...from my perspective, that's quite a scary number. 1 every 2.5 to 3 years? 馃槻馃槻