Vintage Omega "Tropical" Dial: Opinions and Originality

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I'm not generally a tropical dial guy, but this one looks pretty good. You Speedmaster guys, please take a look at the overall degraded varnish and all the rest, indices, for sure. What do you think? Legit? I'd probably swap the bezel if I owned the watch. I see the lugs show some wear, and the back is very faint.
 
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I am far from an expert on these ... but the coloring is so consistent across the dial and hands.. my gut says this has been "fake aged"
 
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Is there anyone who can say for sure whether one of these was baked or not?
 
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Yes there is, yes it was.
Relumed too
Also IRL might look a bit dry and not as caramel
 
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There ya go. How is it that anyone was able to establish with certainty that dials like this are not naturally aged? I don't have any in this color, but I see one now and then. Did someone here conduct experiments to duplicate this effect? I'm not being an ass. I'm sincerely trying to understand how definite conclusions were made. The 105.003 I have that is brown is much more chocolate colored, and it was definitely exposed to sea air for years. Are we saying that no dial that looks like the one I posted is legit?
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I'm away from my recipe book at the moment, but would guess this is a 105.003 in the 22829XXX serial range baked for about 22 minutes at 400F. Probably tastes metalic with earthy, nutty undertones.
 
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There was a 2915-1 around years ago that I would see in photos regularly. It looked much like this one. Should I assume it was lab created? Here are a few examples I found quickly. Which of them are baked? I think the second is the one I used to see. I'd say it's legit.
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No.

All but the second photo were "baked to a delicate crunch."

The second one was "quick fried to a crackly crunch."


Seriously though, none of them look authentic to me. Admittedly my judgement is made after some years examining the vintage Speedmasters exhibited here in Forum posts rather than examining vintage Speedmasters in person.

 
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I honestly don't know anything about this part of Speedmaster culture. I do know that some big money has changed hands in the name of this "tropical" obsession. Best for me to avoid then, I'd say.
 
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Once this guy (photo below) submits his Speedmaster opinion, a thread can be considered solved and closed to further comments.

 
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I once owned a 1981 Chevrolet long wide bed pick up bought new. 200,000 miles later I traded it for a brand new Dodge long wide bed pickup. The Chevy pickup could be said to have been "tropical" both in appearance and odometer tally. Value was not inflated because of it.

The new Dodge pickup was driven 550,000 miles and could have been said to be "pleasingly tropical." Sold it outright and the buyer was tickled to get it, however he didn't offer a premium for the emanating aura of "tropical-ness."

I freely admit that I don't get the desire to pay a premium for "tropical" vintage watches. I made up my mind to avoid them as well.
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I honestly don't know anything about this part of Speedmaster culture. I do know that some big money has changed hands in the name of this "tropical" obsession. Best for me to avoid then, I'd say.
In all seriousness I’m in the same boat. I know just enough to know I have no idea about these tropical dials. I’m sure a camera/lighting setup could make something legit look artificial and vise versa, even if there was no incentive to advertise a particular look.
 
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So a pretty tropical dial speedmaster is very attractive-the cooked dials appear obvious to me as cooked

Then there are the desiccated dials. They often have a granular or sugary surface and the colour is often weak, faded patchy and I describe them as “dried out”

Many of the man induced dials are relumed, as the process destroys the lume, of it was even any good to start with.

Bear in mind also that most brown dials photos are catfish. Check skin tones if there is a finger, and if buying always ask for three different lights. Daylight, office light and incandescent. You will be amazed.

Even the Phillips Fraud Speedmaster (last one pictured above) when held in hand had my spidey senses tingling long before they were busted.

When you handle a lot of them, you get an intuitive idea as to veracity of the dial. All part of the fun.
 
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This one is mine, and it was baked in SE Asia, primarily Vietnam in the 60s....as well as decades of general abuse and neglect. You can see the degradation of the varnish and the lum. The then owner was definitely not concerned with creating patina. It's a birth year watch. It looks much more like chocolate in less light.

 
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Has anyone identified the fugitive black pigment in these dials yet? It would be a fun and instructive project to id the pigments, medium and layer structure of the dial paint.
 
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Very interesting and educational thread. Hope for more examples and shared knowledge. Thank You to the knowledgeable people who contribute on this forum. 🙏🏻