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Vintage Ed White vs. Modern 321 – Second Thoughts?
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Crate046
·I'm a vintage, I will go for Ed White.
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Indices
·I pretty much have worn my EW321 as a daily watch, and whilst I’ve owned vintage models I’ve always babied them to the point of not wearing them, which defeats the point, at least for me.
I don’t think I’d wear a 105.003 anywhere near as much as this newer Ed White for the fear of irrevocably damaging it; whereas I know just about anything I do to my new 321 can be repaired when sent to Biel at service, if desired.
I don’t think I’d wear a 105.003 anywhere near as much as this newer Ed White for the fear of irrevocably damaging it; whereas I know just about anything I do to my new 321 can be repaired when sent to Biel at service, if desired.
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boogedyboo
·Buying modern would be a lot simpler since you can get it from the AD and at a fixed price.
Buying vintage means investing hours of painstaking research into vintage pieces. And that still does not include the time to actually find one available for sale! Prices can also vary wildly.
Buying vintage means investing hours of painstaking research into vintage pieces. And that still does not include the time to actually find one available for sale! Prices can also vary wildly.
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lucreative
·I'm having a similar debate in my head regarding putting a modern Apollo 11 57th Anniversary Flat Link on my 105.012-66 instead of the flimsy 1039. I even went into the Omega Boutique near me who had one in stock. At the end of the day, even though the modern bracelet was much more comfortable, looked amazing, and much more advanced/solid bracelet, I still stuck with my 1039 even though it looked so worn. It just felt right and I felt transported back in history every time I stare at it.
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Davidt
·Buying modern would be a lot simpler since you can get it from the AD and at a fixed price.
Buying vintage means investing hours of painstaking research into vintage pieces. And that still does not include the time to actually find one available for sale! Prices can also vary wildly.
This is part of the point of this thread. Most people can’t get a modern Ed White from an AD.
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Evitzee
·Even though you can't normally walk into an AD or OB and buy one they are available on the grey market for not much of a premium, $1k to $2k.
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MoonTimer
·In the meantime, I decided to purchase a new one to enjoy and wear until the right vintage piece comes along.
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boogedyboo
·This is part of the point of this thread. Most people can’t get a modern Ed White from an AD.
I jest.
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Gael.Bx
·If for the same price I can have the old one in very good condition then that's the choice I would make.
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Evitzee
·If for the same price I can have the old one in very good condition then that's the choice I would make.
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bsowers34
·So my OB just told me that if I want one she'll put me on the list and "hope for the best in 2025".She says the same for a Snoopy.
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Mods
·Vintage Ed White for me please 😇
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MoonTimer
·IF is the biggest word in the dictionary, the trick is getting a vintage 321 in very good condition and having access to a good watch person when it needs some work. It just is getting harder and harder, at least in my experience. It all depends on your collecting approach and mentality.
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bsowers34
·I would love to have a new one, but I already have the FOIS, and it seems a little redundant. Maybe if I had tried to get the 321 first it would be different, but I have the FOIS and the white pro both for about the same money.
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M'Bob
·I understand the crown/case tube set-up is different on the new Ed White vs old. I’ve read that this gives a stickier, less fluid winding feel than on the older models. Has this been anyone’s experience? Does it loosen up over time?
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Evitzee
·I understand the crown/case tube set-up is different on the new Ed White vs old. I’ve read that this gives a stickier, less fluid winding feel than on the older models. Has this been anyone’s experience? Does it loosen up over time?
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Omegafanman
·I understand the crown/case tube set-up is different on the new Ed White vs old. I’ve read that this gives a stickier, less fluid winding feel than on the older models. Has this been anyone’s experience? Does it loosen up over time?
On a vintage 145.012 321 it is very smooth and also there is a slight almost imperceptible spring back which is actually pleasing when you let the crown go. (might be a sign of wear although it is fully serviced) @Archer might comment. The 1861 FOIS was my next favourite wind up experience. The modern 3861 is very positive but feels more of a mechanical chore. I do appreciate the hacking seconds and accuracy. The modern 321 Ed white is better but does feel different, not as enjoyable as a vintage 321 experience, but still more fluid and natural than a modern 3861.
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Omegafanman
·I can’t say the wind up experience is make or break for me on a Speedmaster. They do feel different.
On a vintage 145.012 321 it is very smooth and also there is a slight almost imperceptible spring back which is actually pleasing when you let the crown go. (might be a sign of wear although it is fully serviced) @Archer might comment. The 1861 FOIS was my next favourite wind up experience. The modern 3861 is very positive but feels more of a mechanical chore. I do appreciate the hacking seconds and accuracy. The modern 321 Ed white is better but does feel different, not as enjoyable as a vintage 321 experience, but still more fluid and natural than a modern 3861.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!The biggest widing issue with the original FOIS was that the crown is skinnier than on original straight lug Models. They remedied this on the New Ed White and also FOIS2. Personally I can't really tell the difference in feel between 321, 1861 and 3861 but do note that the 3313 auto movement used in the Broad Arrow Speedies feels butter smooth in comparison.
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