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Dan S
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Syrte Syrte
To me the question presumes the public at large is getting vaccinated. Otherwise why ask?
It’s as if I were asking « did you get your Hodinkee Vacheron Corne de Vaches limited edition »?

I didn't read the question that way at all. Forum members are in various situations and professions. Some may be first-responders, medical professionals, in high-risk age groups (some states are now vaccinating people over 65 or over 70, and many forum members are certainly in those age groups), or in other professions that are currently being vaccinated. Even people who work/volunteer in senior-living facilities are eligible in my state. Some may have taken part in trials. Etc. I think the question was simply asked out of curiosity. I don't know why you are making this into a contentious thread.
 
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No, but between states and localities the public is being vaccinated and wildly different rates...

And of course there are bad apples in the U.S., unlike in more enlightened countries 🙄
Okay; and just for the sake of testing my hunch, aren’t you and the OP and @vintage hab all from the US?
 
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I didn't read the question that way at all. Forum members are in variations situations and professions. Some may be first-responders, or in high-risk age groups (some states are now vaccinating people over 65 or over 70, and many forum members are certainly in those age groups). Some may have taken part in trials. Etc. I think the question was simply asked out of curiosity. I don't know why you are making this into a contentious thread.

Ok. Well thanks for pointing it out. It certainly isn’t my intent to make it a contentious thread. I’m just interested in cultural biases in general.
However again I said in the beginning there was no offense intended in my observation.
 
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Syrte Syrte
Okay; and just for the sake of testing my hunch, aren’t you and the OP and @vintage hab all from the US?
I'm a Canadian living in the U.S., but I didn't ask the question 😀
 
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We call it a 'shot' here in the US. I got the 1st (Pfizer) on 1/29 and get the 2nd on 2/15.
And we guessed you were in the US having noted that you wrote the dates the wrong way round 😉
 
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Okay; and just for the sake of testing my hunch, aren’t you and the OP and @vintage hab all from the US?

I think that we’re in the U.S. results from you’re now only testing the hunch that talking skeptically about one’s country makes one more likely to pipe in, no?

Because to hear other Europeans tell it, there are biases about the French that if recounted would likely illicit responses from the French...
 
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And we guessed you were in the US having noted that you wrote the dates the wrong way round 😉

But we all agree 12 days a year (1/1, 2/2, etc)
 
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In a semi-rural area of England the local doctor's surgeries have got together and sent all the staff they can spare to the largest local practice. You don't apply, they phone you. Calling number was withheld and I don't answer those (grumpy old man...) just wait for a voicemail, so it took a week to arrange the appointment which was the following day. Very efficient car park marshalling (I was the only person I saw walk in) and just one queue to stand in and follow right through. A pre-prepared bar-code sticker is handed out at the entrance after confirming identity and your sticker is scanned from then on. I didn't notice the actual injection -- we were laughing about my only allergy being to politicians, and you go straight out. I have a slightly sore arm but nothing to fret about. All very efficient and the people there were very cheerful and joking. The shot was the AstraZeneca and they supply a leaflet with the ingredients 😎
 
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Had my first Moderna a while back. My second dose was cancelled due you a snow storm. Now I’m scheduled for Monday but we have more snow in the forecast Sunday I’m not sure how it’s going to play out.
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... but where's the actual line to stand in?
I was also confused about how it all works. But last week, our county health department started a list and you can sign up, depending on your priority level. I'm supposedly in group 1B, but I expect it will be several months before a dose is available to me. They are being very transparent, with a weekly dashboard on how many doses were received, how many were given, and what group it's being given to. It's nice that they took charge.
 
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Syrte Syrte
To me the question presumes the public at large is getting vaccinated. Otherwise why ask?
It’s as if I were asking « did you get your Hodinkee Vacheron Corne de Vaches limited edition »?

I didn't read that into the question...but then again I'm American 😀

Vaccine- hopefully majority of world population eventually has access, and most are aware of its existence.
Hodinkee Vacheron Corne de Vaches limited edition- Only .00001% of the population even knows what this is, and far less even care.

I think you are over thinking an innocent, albeit premature question. Suggesting only Americans would ask, while maybe accurate is in itself a bias despite its disclaimer.
 
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It's the same in the U.S. Vaccines are distributed based on the government plan and priorities. I know of no way to skip the line and pay for it.

But it appears that there is an option to use one's affluence to skip the line...

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My wife is a physician and has received both doses; and, she’s ramped up breastfeeding our 1yr old, while making “magic” milkshakes for our 3yr old.

Accordingly, I’m the only one in the house without antibodies - and suspect it will be a long while before it’s my turn (as I’ll not use my affluence to skip the line).

Not sure exactly how that would happen though.

Regarding "bad actors" yes they are everywhere...

Casino CEO, actress identified as couple who flew to Yukon, got COVID-19 vaccines | CBC News
 
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Not sure exactly how that would happen though.

how which would happen, exactly? Sorry, didn’t follow
 
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But it appears that there is an option to use one's affluence to skip the line...

Regarding "bad actors" yes they are everywhere...

Unfortunately yes...this seems to be more common than you think. Wealth and power can buy vaccines, and its happening every day at the expense of those on the front line that are risking their lives to help others. Honestly I dont understand why Teachers aren't also included in the first group as well. I can happily stay isolated a few more months while these critical groups that cant stay isolated because they are working in healthcare, protecting our communities or teaching our children get the first doses.
 
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But it appears that there is an option to use one's affluence to skip the line...

Oh I see now.

What I mean is: not everyone has the privilege to spend hours a day online refreshing sign-up sheets, or to take off work at the drop of a hat to take advantage of a last minute slot, to have the education to navigate the system, or even to have a primary care physicians that might help one navigate the system.

Drops of privilege that add up to buckets of difference.

I don’t know if anyone paying a lot to get access, though the world is a dark place sometimes.
 
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To the OP, you asked a couple of questions. No, I haven't been jabbed. As to waiting and trying to figure out when you are next, yes, that is what we have to do.

I sympathize with your question. I don't know if this is an American question or not, but I can understand why you would like more information, even if it simply isn't possible, or why you are nervously waiting for the shot, without trying to jump the line. I too do not want to die when a vaccine is so close, like the father of a person I used to work with, who died yesterday (he was around my age.) I also see the mental toll it is taking on my college engineering student who sits in her dorm alone nearly all hours of the day, except to use the restroom where she must wear a mask to walk down the hall. Her fight with depression is palpable. (Not looking for advice or sympathy, just venting.)

Unfortunately, I don't have enough faith in my health system to wait my turn without anxiety, which some are fortunate to do. It's not that we would jump the queue. But it is normal to feel stress and anxiety about wanting the vaccine. Thankfully there is a vaccine coming. None too soon. Until then, we wait. You can't see me, but I am standing there in line with you and hopefully it helps to know we are in it together.
 
Dan S
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But it appears that there is an option to use one's affluence to skip the line...

Not sure exactly how that would happen though.

I know of a few one-off examples. For example, we know someone who is on the board of trustees of a non-profit senior living facility and got vaccinations for him and his wife. I assume the facility listed them as volunteer workers, who would be eligible in the current phase. The other examples I'm aware of involve people who fortuitously received calls about vaccinations that needed to be used ASAP before they expired. I'm not implying that any money changed hands, but these people definitely used their personal contacts/influence to jump the line.
 
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I have read the debate regarding the thread and its precieved intent with interest and then I re-read the OP. Not trying to add fuel to the fire but I think @Syrte is getting unfairly treated. The opening paragraph started by suggesting a degree of luck/chance in the partners vaccination

"got her first dose by chance"

and then;-

jsducote jsducote
I'm not likely to get a call until it's open to the public. I saw my doctor last week for a routine physical and he said as much. I suppose I could try switching doctors, but it may take just as long to get a first appointment with him and go through the process.

when i read statements like this I assume the OP is suggesting he/she is thinking of or exploring ways to use influence (money???) to move up the list to get vaccinated earlier. I have no idea of motives (honourable or not) so will not speculate.

jsducote jsducote
There was a big event at the local football stadium a few weeks back where they vaccinated the first 40,000 people to show up or something like that.

this quote suggests that the vaccine roll out in the area in question is more of a lottery than an organised priority list. Whether it is factual or not I have no idea

jsducote jsducote
Otherwise, everything else is "unavailable, check back later". Are we just supposed to hit refresh on a dozen different websites a day until we're the 104th caller with the phrase that pays?

again speculation that it might be first come first served and luck rather than organised.

I am from the UK and I assumed from its content that the OP was from a country/Area without a nationalised health service. Also where the vaccine roll out was either not well communicated in its priorities or where one had to have luck or influence to get prioritised. I am sorry if anyone feels this is a bad thing and I am certainly not trying to make the thread contentious.
 
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Syrte Syrte
IMHO the question supposes people have options
Depending on where you live in the USA, you may have options. And that really is part of the angst that people are going through.

Since we have no national health care, the vaccine rollout is being handled by the states (and in some places, the cities and counties). Because of this, the rules and regulations regarding who can get vaccines are greatly dependent on the policy of governors and mayors and not medical professionals.

Here in Florida, our governor has decided to move vaccinations away from hospitals and medical offices in favor of local mass vaccination sites and commercial pharmacies (especially those that donated to his campaign). At the same time he signed an executive order mandating that those under 65 with medical conditions who would make them more susceptible to COVID can only obtain vaccines at hospitals.

I personally know of people who were major donors to private hospitals that were taken in “through the back door” to get vaccines. Maybe this why the Governor made it difficult for hospitals to get vaccines?

Since I am under 65 and take immuno-suppressant medication, that made obtaining a vaccination very difficult. My doctor gave me a Rx for the vaccine, but the hospital he was associated with had no doses available. I was finally able to determine that if appointments became available, they were posted exactly at 8am. It took me a couple of weeks, but was able to secure an appointment by being in the right (virtual) place at the right time. Have to drive 120 miles each way to get it though.

Had 1st dose on January 29th and 2nd is scheduled on February 19th. I consider myself very lucky as many people in worse shape than I are having such trouble getting vaccinated. I hesitated to book the appointment when given the opportunity, but concluded that I have such little faith in our state government to take care of me when my time came that I had no choice. It was now or possibly never.

It is such a travesty that we have to make choices like this rather that an orderly rollout, like other countries.

A national shame,
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