Unusual Omega Geneve Dynamic Spotted on eBay

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Hi everyone.
I love my Geneve Dynamics (being a child of the 70's). Just browsing the listings on eBay UK and came across this Dynamic with a dial version I'm not familiar with: Omega Geneve Dynamic .

Here's a photo.
To my untrained eye the dial looks remarkably good with crisp fonts and the "T swiss made T" looks good. The lume looks remarkably tidy as well, so it doesn't look like a redial to me. The green seconds hand is not something I've previously seen.

Any thoughts?

Regards
Chris
 
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I've never seen a Dynamic like that, but I like it.
Maybe @SpikiSpikester could comment if he sees this thread.
 
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Hi everyone.
I love my Geneve Dynamics (being a child of the 70's). Just browsing the listings on eBay UK and came across this Dynamic with a dial version I'm not familiar with: Omega Geneve Dynamic .

Here's a photo.
To my untrained eye the dial looks remarkably good with crisp fonts and the "T swiss made T" looks good. The lume looks remarkably tidy as well, so it doesn't look like a redial to me. The green seconds hand is not something I've previously seen.

Any thoughts?

Regards
Chris
I believe that’s a Dynamic II!
 
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I think you are right Erich - I actually can’t find anything that compares so I’m thinking poor replica.
The dial looks pretty good? The dynamic series was the low end of Omega at the time, and weird enough I believe the case is probably real because no one would bother to fake it back then.

That said, these were both unpopular and Omegas "let's be goofy" watch, at a time where they did a bad job documenting the variations. (Plus something not studied/ photographed extensively like other models).

So not saying it IS real, just that I wouldnt be surprised if it is. Really the only way to tell for sure is to find an Advertisement or another out there.

With better pictures perhaps there is a tell that it is a redial, but I don't see anything that leaves me suspicious as-is.
 
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The dial looks pretty good? The dynamic series was the low end of Omega at the time, and weird enough I believe the case is probably real because no one would bother to fake it back then.

That said, these were both unpopular and Omegas "let's be goofy" watch, at a time where they did a bad job documenting the variations. (Plus something not studied/ photographed extensively like other models).

So not saying it IS real, just that I wouldnt be surprised if it is. Really the only way to tell for sure is to find an Advertisement or another out there.

With better pictures perhaps there is a tell that it is a redial, but I don't see anything that leaves me suspicious as-is.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Could he at attempted redial. Would need plenty of photos, including ones with the case back removed.
 
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Looks like a ladies dynamic to me that’s been redial wrong? And very heavy on the lume
 
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I’d say it should look like similar to this
 
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Hi everyone.
I love my Geneve Dynamics (being a child of the 70's). Just browsing the listings on eBay UK and came across this Dynamic with a dial version I'm not familiar with: Omega Geneve Dynamic .

Here's a photo.
To my untrained eye the dial looks remarkably good with crisp fonts and the "T swiss made T" looks good. The lume looks remarkably tidy as well, so it doesn't look like a redial to me. The green seconds hand is not something I've previously seen.

Any thoughts?

Regards
Chris
Open the back, get the numbers, and I can use my database to see if anything comes up if you like.
 
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Open the back, get the numbers, and I can use my database to see if anything comes up if you like.
I don't think OP owns it, it is an ebay watch 😀
 
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Looks like it ended. Seems legit in many ways. It is also the sort of dial I fantasize making myself. I keep collecting images of dials, Even got as far as cutting some dial blanks. There is so much on SM300, that dial would probably be the easiest to replicate. I can get the R from the Railmaster and create a line of Ratmaster dials. Seafranken on the other hand needs a good example of 'f' for that font. I think 'k' is also not used in the other names.

Also interesting to see how much the US supply chain has dried up of bits and pieces of scrap. Not that I need anything new, so many projects have a part missing or something to fit and adjust, (like hairsprings and balance staffs.) One of these is a dynamic ...
 
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Hi everyone.
I love my Geneve Dynamics (being a child of the 70's). Just browsing the listings on eBay UK and came across this Dynamic with a dial version I'm not familiar with: Omega Geneve Dynamic .

Here's a photo.
To my untrained eye the dial looks remarkably good with crisp fonts and the "T swiss made T" looks good. The lume looks remarkably tidy as well, so it doesn't look like a redial to me. The green seconds hand is not something I've previously seen.

Any thoughts?

Regards
Chris
Chis, I ran it through my database with my LLM, and this is what it brought up.
Short answer: the case and bracelet look like a real Dynamic I. The dial is most likely a redial, meaning it was repainted after it left Omega. So it's a real Omega with a non-original dial, and it should be priced as one.


Why the dial is the problem


  • I couldn't find any Omega Dynamic I with this layout. Printed Arabic 6 and 9 with a lume triangle at 12 is the classic aftermarket redial pattern. Omega's own black Dynamic dials use batons or applied markers: one family guide describes applied hour markers at 3, 6, 9, and 12, with the other hours painted.
  • The green seconds hand doesn't match. Documented Dynamic seconds hands are sky blue on the blue/gold dial and orange on the gray dial, and blue on the racing dial. I found no green one.
  • The lume was hand-applied. At high zoom, the hour bars vary from white to yellow and look blobby. Factory tritium ages fairly evenly, while hand-filled lume looks like this.
  • The printing is soft. "OMEGA AUTOMATIC" and "Genève DYNAMIC" are blurred next to the crisp print on the blue/gold dial you showed first. The photo is small, so this is the weakest of the four points.

What looks right


The brushed oval monocoque case, the crown at 3, and the integrated bracelet all look like a genuine Dynamic I. Those parts carry the value here.


Before anyone pays, ask for:


  1. The movement, with the caliber number. The dial says AUTOMATIC, so it must be an automatic (565 for a 166.0039, 1012 for a 166.0187). A hand-wound 601 or 613 under an "Automatic" dial settles it as assembled.
  2. The caseback reference confirms which Dynamic case this is.
  3. The dial under a raking light, close-up. Redials show paint sitting on top and edges that bleed. Hope this helps.