Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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Wrong crystal

So, to clarify, this type of crystal (round date window) was never used on any of the Polerouter Subs? I've seen it used a few times already. So, all those are wrong?
 
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So, to clarify, this type of crystal (round date window) was never used on any of the Polerouter Subs? I've seen it used a few times already. So, all those are wrong?
The correct trapezoid shaped date window is very hard to find. During a service the watchmaker will take what is available. Round or square shaped. So, not correct AFAIK.
 
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The correct trapezoid shaped date window is very hard to find. During a service the watchmaker will take what is available. Round or square shaped. So, not correct AFAIK.

Thanks!
 
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Thanks. As usual for eBay it looks like it'll exceed any sensible price given the faults
 
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Two subs on the Bay at this time, both appear to be of the second iteration. Both show the GENE VE mentioned elsewhere on this forum.

Right, so they are fake. Prefer that they not be posted here lest someone think they are recommended.
 
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Right, so they are fake. Prefer that they not be posted here lest someone think they are recommended.

What's nice is that one of sellers says the case isn't original and dial refinished.

The other of course guarantees it's all original.
 
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Looks like a refinished dial offered at at 10 X it's real value...
Not necessarily: (pg. 448 in sala)
 
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How bad is it ? Not a big deal if you like the watch. Keep it long enough and you could end up with a tidy investment
 
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How bad is it ? Not a big deal if you like the watch. Keep it long enough and you could end up with a tidy investment

I like the watch, just not sure I can live with the rusty hands... Could a decent watchmaker replate them?
 
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I like the watch, just not sure I can live with the rusty hands... Could a decent watchmaker replate them?

Should be fixable. It's a nice watch, lugs look sharp and the arrow hands are uncommon enough. So if you like it, you're totally within the meh-margin 😀


And only a mere £4k 😵‍💫

Beyond absurd. Plus the amount of possible (probable) fakes out there - a redial could so easily be a way to hide that.
 
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Very interesting!
Ok it looks about the same but there are some significant differences if you compare both dial: black rim around the beige inner circle, longer minute hand, different fonts and size of the brand, different lugs, and so on...