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  1. abrod520

    abrod520 Nov 21, 2015

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    That Autavia carries a serial number in the 59xxx range, which were the earlier Heuer-Leonidas watches. The Ed. Heuer marked watches were in the 54xxx range, possibly some in the 55xxx - but there are original 56xxx Carreras that were marked Heuer-Leonidas.
     
  2. guillaumeabxl

    guillaumeabxl Nov 21, 2015

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  3. LouS

    LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Nov 21, 2015

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    Mostly just that it's gold plated. Also, not a lot of vintage watches coming out of Morocco. Not clear what the maintenance is like there.
     
  4. Northernman

    Northernman Nov 21, 2015

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    Second hand counter poise bent. Dial fonts look fat. Redial?
     
  5. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 23, 2015

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    Thank you for your eloquent insight into serial number ranges of older Heuer autavias. I was going on a second exec I owned and sold (to buy a ug tri-compax).
     
  6. valjoux72

    valjoux72 Nov 24, 2015

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  7. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 24, 2015

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    I had to get myself one these. Excellent quality but a close inspection reveals inconsistencies when compared to original.

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  8. PHPHD

    PHPHD Nov 24, 2015

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    Any chance you could share some inconsistencies? (or PM might work better)
     
  9. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 25, 2015

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    No Lume
    Second Ring - Seems to have thicker indices to original
    Registers - Some bleed. Thicker numerals not as sharp as original
    Logo - As above and embossed / glossy ink is different to original

    I conclude that it must be printed using the original plate and very high quality ink. It is a real stunning repro which could easily be mistaken for an original. I spotted this one in milan, clearly a space made with a repro dial ...

    Uc space compax - repro.JPG

    Wrong register hands and lots more. Amazingly, it fits the UG caliber 130 movement (although original, far too early a V72 movement variation to be used on a 70's space compax) ...

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  10. Scepticalist

    Scepticalist Nov 25, 2015

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  11. Severin

    Severin Nov 25, 2015

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    re: posting I found on Chrono24:
    I'm no expert, but the characterization of this sub as "all original" defies my (admittedly limited) experience. The certificate from UG further confuses 3833602_xxl.jpg 3833602b_xxl.jpg .
     
  12. Scepticalist

    Scepticalist Nov 26, 2015

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    Somehow, I think the English translation and grammar on a UG "certificate" would be better than that letter suggests it is.
     
  13. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 26, 2015

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    It is about as credible as the peace treaty between the White House and the kremlin. I smell a rat .... image.jpeg
     
  14. PHPHD

    PHPHD Nov 26, 2015

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    I don't like the guy's signature, especially the 'Garcia'... Looks sketchy
     
  15. nightowl

    nightowl Nov 26, 2015

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  16. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 26, 2015

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    On the contrary, Mr. Garcia's "Universal Geneve" email address is published on LinkedIn. Easy enough to look him up and pop him an email requesting confirmation that letter is authentic. I suppose there is no better place to go to than the horse's mouth !

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  17. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 26, 2015

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  18. nightowl

    nightowl Nov 26, 2015

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    Now that's a face I can trust!
     
  19. P.Wood

    P.Wood Nov 27, 2015

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  20. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 27, 2015

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    Good
    Nice dial
    Nice hands
    Nice movement

    Bad

    Wrong crystal
    wrong crown
    polished case has lost its sharp edges
    Wrong bezel

    It looks like the case has been modified for new crown (tube replaced). If you are after a daily beater, are happy with the case and you are not really after a collectible sub, then it could be the one for you. It has lots of issues but can be put right. However, parts are hard to come by. For me it would be a no-goer ...
     
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