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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerUnfortunately true but rare, very interesting case and nice inscription
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leonlecoultre
·Hour and minute hands are ludicrously short, chronhand in steel--lol and very clumsily attached.
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Diabolik
·A very nice compur 30 with he original 386 movement and RARE dial ha popped up ...
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Redondo444
·Crown appears not to be original and one pusher seems to be damaged (backside).
On the savoy knot copied from here:
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/a...1625-a-heuer-chess-champion-and-an-iwc-cal-83
Towards the dial's centre, just below the handstack, you'll notice a small knot graphic where you'd normally find text reading "COMPUR." This is what's known as a "Savoy knot," which is a symbol of Italian heraldry, linking this piece directly to the Italian royal family Casa Savoia, or House of Savoy. Italy's Savoyard counts, dukes, and kings were in part responsible for the country's unification in 1861, in addition to their brief stints ruling over Albania, Ethiopia, and Spain. The presence of this defining insignia suggests without question that this watch was originally delivered to the Italian market, and presented to someone related to the House of Savoy.
In the past, I've seen savoy knots on the dials of similarly configured Compaxes from Universal Geneve, along with Marina Militare chronographs from Zenith. This isn't to say that timepieces bearing such insignias on their dials are common, as I could probably count every qualifying example I've encountered on one hand, even with a couple of amputated fingers. Even though the watch hasn't aged as gracefully as one would hope, I'd still deem it one seriously cool piece.
On the savoy knot copied from here:
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/a...1625-a-heuer-chess-champion-and-an-iwc-cal-83
Towards the dial's centre, just below the handstack, you'll notice a small knot graphic where you'd normally find text reading "COMPUR." This is what's known as a "Savoy knot," which is a symbol of Italian heraldry, linking this piece directly to the Italian royal family Casa Savoia, or House of Savoy. Italy's Savoyard counts, dukes, and kings were in part responsible for the country's unification in 1861, in addition to their brief stints ruling over Albania, Ethiopia, and Spain. The presence of this defining insignia suggests without question that this watch was originally delivered to the Italian market, and presented to someone related to the House of Savoy.
In the past, I've seen savoy knots on the dials of similarly configured Compaxes from Universal Geneve, along with Marina Militare chronographs from Zenith. This isn't to say that timepieces bearing such insignias on their dials are common, as I could probably count every qualifying example I've encountered on one hand, even with a couple of amputated fingers. Even though the watch hasn't aged as gracefully as one would hope, I'd still deem it one seriously cool piece.
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerWell I have at least a dozen of them on record but the location of the knot on this one is interesting
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerCleaning up an early chrono database I have and found this 😕
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Diabolik
·Why do you say that ? I have seen the knot above and below. Here is another ...
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerMe too but mostly the knot is on the lower end of the dial
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer
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freshestoyster
·Hey guys, I was wondering if ya'll would offer some advice on this watch I found. The dial looks impeccable and is claimed to be untouched, what do you guys think? Crown is unsigned and is a reference 22283
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerImho the position of the 10 is a give away. Think this is an original dial https://www.bukowskis.com/en/auctio...eve-tri-compax-chronograph-wristwatch-34-5-mm
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freshestoyster
·Imho the position of the 10 is a give away. Think this is an original dial https://www.bukowskis.com/en/auctio...eve-tri-compax-chronograph-wristwatch-34-5-mm
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martinc
·Hey guys, I was wondering if ya'll would offer some advice on this watch I found. The dial looks impeccable and is claimed to be untouched, what do you guys think? Crown is unsigned and is a reference 22283
This is a “service dial”. Made by UG but not original to the watch. Can be easily recognized by “Tri Compax” instead of “Tri-Compax” (no dash) and by the specific layout. It seems that only one graphic design of these service dials existed.
The original dial would have been something with an early 50s vibe. 😀
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Mazoue
·Crown appears not to be original and one pusher seems to be damaged (backside).
On the savoy knot copied from here:
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/a...1625-a-heuer-chess-champion-and-an-iwc-cal-83
Towards the dial's centre, just below the handstack, you'll notice a small knot graphic where you'd normally find text reading "COMPUR." This is what's known as a "Savoy knot," which is a symbol of Italian heraldry, linking this piece directly to the Italian royal family Casa Savoia, or House of Savoy. Italy's Savoyard counts, dukes, and kings were in part responsible for the country's unification in 1861, in addition to their brief stints ruling over Albania, Ethiopia, and Spain. The presence of this defining insignia suggests without question that this watch was originally delivered to the Italian market, and presented to someone related to the House of Savoy.
In the past, I've seen savoy knots on the dials of similarly configured Compaxes from Universal Geneve, along with Marina Militare chronographs from Zenith. This isn't to say that timepieces bearing such insignias on their dials are common, as I could probably count every qualifying example I've encountered on one hand, even with a couple of amputated fingers. Even though the watch hasn't aged as gracefully as one would hope, I'd still deem it one seriously cool piece.
I don't think the truth behind the knot logo on Universal dials is nearly as interesting or grandiose as this suggests.
The 'nœud marin' logo was trademarked by Perret & Berthoud in 1929.
I'm not sure we have any reason to think it was only used for watches for certain customers.
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melfio
·Hi guys,
Found this forum because of the "tri-compax dial evolution"-thread and registered here because of the awesome discussion that happened there. I have a decent JLC reverse with papers and all but these UG watches man, finger licking good and the perfect size for my wrist.
First post from my side then. Is this an incredibly lousy repainting or might there be another explanation?
Since they say that it's working at least the movement should be legit?
What are your thoughts? 😀
Best regards
Leo
Found this forum because of the "tri-compax dial evolution"-thread and registered here because of the awesome discussion that happened there. I have a decent JLC reverse with papers and all but these UG watches man, finger licking good and the perfect size for my wrist.
First post from my side then. Is this an incredibly lousy repainting or might there be another explanation?
Since they say that it's working at least the movement should be legit?
What are your thoughts? 😀
Best regards
Leo
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vujen
·Original dial, but in very bad condition
