Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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193k. Perhaps a bit early 😁
 
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Here's a dubious one from the bay, I mean Hodinkee 😗
https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/...rbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJhYXBhbGlsZW9AYm9vdGxlZy5waCJ9
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Why don't they show the movement. I really hate that. Same for the current Sothebys auction. No movement pics (usual for them) but also no movement number because: (you won't believe this) 'there was no watchmaker around'.

Nice mark up anyway: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Reloj-Cronografo-Vintage-Universal-Geneve-dato-Compax-ref-12495-Cal-285-de-Oro-/124566963248?_ul=AR&nma=true&si=wq7H%2Fb8uqJyEet6rshitl1vTNpA%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Asking was USD 5.250 and sold for USD 4.800 (and that was including a 18k bracelet)


Anyway: AQ sold a close serial (430 vs 477 for the Hodinkee one) https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/universal-geneve-ref-12495-lot-296-185
Sothebys sold one in 2020: https://www.invaluable.com/auction-...8k-gold-manual-wind-calendar-105-c-d184e95945
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Here's a dubious one from the bay, I mean Hodinkee
I am not so much into Datos, so I would like to ask: What makes this watch dubious?
 
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I am not so much into Datos, so I would like to ask: What makes this watch dubious?
I would ask the same question. Not to get all “miss manners” ish but it seems good practice to articulate the issues one sees in an offering. Just sayin.
 
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I am not so much into Datos, so I would like to ask: What makes this watch dubious?

I would ask the same question. Not to get all “miss manners” ish but it seems good practice to articulate the issues one sees in an offering. Just sayin.

Sorry for not being clear. I was implying what @Mark020 mentioned about this watch being on eBay. If memory serves me right, it was shared / discussed here before (thus my “bay-Hodinkee” point)?
 
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287 instead of 481 would be more a bad copy/paste than a huge typo 😀
 
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See this at Phillips?

Thoughts on "NOS" status?

I would describe it as mint. Very nice one.