I like this watch as a potential first UG. Are the 24-hour dials less common than the ones without? What is a ballpark cost to re-lume the hands, or would it need new hands altogether? Further, would re-luming reduce the value of this watch, or not really matter? It would be a daily piece.

Thanks!

 

I don't know the history on this without research, but the only official "outdoorsman" advert I recall offhand is for the 20101, which has a cal 361, 33mm case, and 24 hr numbers.

How and why this term came to be applied to a whole series of cal 263 and 267 time only models in the 30-35mm range, I'm not sure, but the entire group often is referred to as "outdoorsman" or "military", I'm not sure if this is just convention, or if there are more adverts out there showing some of these other models with the same "outdoorsman" name.

Yes the 24 hr dial is less common. The least common are the larger size cases (34-34.5mm), which I think almost always have the 24 hr dial. Then you have mid sized cases (32-33mm) with 24 hr like above, and then most common are smaller cases (30-32mm) without 24 hr dial.

Relume costs by an "artist" where you are paying for custom work to color match a photo, or the dial, etc can run upwards of $250 which would not be worth it for a time only like above. You can definitely get them done cheaper but I'm not sure how good the results will be.

Relume is almost always worth less than original lume, but well relumed I think is worth more than no lume.

Or you can look for a beater watch with a nice pair of hands and try to swap them, but this doesn't always work out in terms of being the right size.

 

here's another advert, this is a 263 with a 24 hr dial, but it has a gold bezel, so perhaps entirely different model, anyhow it's called the "wrist watch"

 

just reminded me to wear mine!

 

I just don’t think that name will catch on.

 

I don’t understand the actual utility of the “24” hr.

Since the hour hand sweeps the dial every 12hrs, the watch itself can’t differentiate between AM/PM. So, the user is left to decide whether to read the 12 or 24hr markers. Which I guess means the 24hr dial merely works to assist in the maths associated with adding the number 12 to any number in the dial?

I suppose that’s helpful? But is that the extent of it or am I missing something?

 

sdre - that looks nice. Have you ever tried looking for new hands, or just like to keep it the way it is?

Cvalue - that is a good question.

 

It just looks cool and makes you feel "military"

 

That sounds a little steep - I've just had a set of hands re-lumed in the UK for about £45



One hand still had lume so the colour was selected to match the original.

 

How about that one? The price seems right given the overall condition, doesn't it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174197570741?Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

"During World War I, the British Royal Navy adopted the 24-hour clock in 1915, and the Allied armed forces followed soon after,[18] with the British Army switching officially in 1918.[19] The Canadian armed forces first started to use the 24-hour clock in late 1917.[20] In 1920, the United States Navy was the first United States organization to adopt the system; the United States Army, however, did not officially adopt the 24-hour clock until World War II, on July 1, 1942.[21]" Wiki.

 

It should have a Cal 69 not a Cal 218-2 movement.

 

Mmmm nay.

 

And the buckle.

 

Anyone here snag this ? Would love to see pics if you did as I’m sure you’d love to show off a bit https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/293490310072

 

the seller lived nearby and I was going to have a look at it, but the price went beyond the point I was interested

 

wtf....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/montre-uni...827189?hash=item2ae31b0cb5:g:sCoAAOSwGSZeYQvaPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

A complete travesty. Titus Calypsomatic case, shitty generic bezel, Kindergarden club dial...the list goes on. AVOID!

 

Lmao wtf indeed. This is vintage madness