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Timmovitz
·Wrong chrono graph second hand and chronograph Minute hand. Also not Sure if minute and hour hand are original, not really a good redial as well.
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MMMD
·That ring at the bottom of the chrono second hand isn't a UG thing. As for the dial, the north and south subdial numerals jumped out at me as imperfect.
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MMMD
·It really should say Universal Geneve somewhere in that dial. And those hour markers obscuring the minute numbers... not good. It looks like a legitimate dial that's been brutally mucked with.
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Timmovitz
·Do any of you have links or photos of legitimate dials & hands for comparison. Wouldn't it be impossible to find legitimate dials (& hands) surviving the 50+ years?
In my research I only come across re-dials - better or awful. Actually I think the other/first I posted seems like a very good re-dial compared to others I've seen. I would really like to own a UG cause I think they look charming and with great complications ex. moonphase, chrono & date.
What price range would be acceptable for a re-dial as I probably can't afford a legitimate?
In my research I only come across re-dials - better or awful. Actually I think the other/first I posted seems like a very good re-dial compared to others I've seen. I would really like to own a UG cause I think they look charming and with great complications ex. moonphase, chrono & date.
What price range would be acceptable for a re-dial as I probably can't afford a legitimate?
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ELV web
·I think one should not pay much for redial, if u look hard enough, u can still come by legitimate one at 3-4K usd, just have to be patient. Below is a genuine dial (but whether it comes with the case or not is a matter for debate 😜 )
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Boudica
·Thought I'd share for your interest, although I think they are asking far too much as buy it now ($USD 1.9k). Lack of movement shot does not assuage. Of interest, the item is described as a Polerouter, although it is a (quite lovely) Polarouter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-G...c-Tropical-Dial-Stainless-Steel-/322273053967
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10H10
·The Swiss at the bottom of the dial looks very low as though it's half covered but the chapter ring. Also i wasn't aware they used prong tool style case backs on early Polarouters as opposed to the spanner octagon style caseback on the early polerouters. Its still a fine looking watch.
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Severin
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All good points, indeed. The one that confounds/irks/concerns me the most is the "curious" 0 in the reference as pointed out by @10H10 (p.s. Nice new avatar pic!).
As for the caseback type, we know of at least two variants for the Polarouter. Here are a few examples: https://omegaforums.net/threads/pol...vey-with-some-observations.35888/#post-471746
As for the snug "Swiss", likewise, we've seen many Polarouter/Polerouter examples where this is the case. What surprises me, however, is that models without minute markers tend to feature feature Swiss a bit higher north on the dial. For example (s s picture):
https://omegaforums.net/threads/pol...-a-brief-survey-with-some-observations.35888/
As for for off-centre logo x crosshair. I've found this to be fairly common. While not ideal, it isn't always a dealbreaker for me given the right watch. Sometimes it is simply a function of the reflection off of a curvy shield (but I don't think that's the case with this example).
Anyhow, some seeming contradictions/ambiguity with this otherwise lovely one.
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gop76
·Do any of you have links or photos of legitimate dials & hands for comparison. Wouldn't it be impossible to find legitimate dials (& hands) surviving the 50+ years?
In my research I only come across re-dials - better or awful. Actually I think the other/first I posted seems like a very good re-dial compared to others I've seen. I would really like to own a UG cause I think they look charming and with great complications ex. moonphase, chrono & date.
What price range would be acceptable for a re-dial as I probably can't afford a legitimate?
My 22258:
My 22279:
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MMMD
·Do any of you have links or photos of legitimate dials & hands for comparison. Wouldn't it be impossible to find legitimate dials (& hands) surviving the 50+ years?...
Not at all impossible... but it was a lot easier to find a Tri-Compax with original dial and furniture a few years ago. Here's one from the 40's, showing its age:
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Rman
·Do any of you have links or photos of legitimate dials & hands for comparison. Wouldn't it be impossible to find legitimate dials (& hands) surviving the 50+ years?
In my research I only come across re-dials - better or awful. Actually I think the other/first I posted seems like a very good re-dial compared to others I've seen. I would really like to own a UG cause I think they look charming and with great complications ex. moonphase, chrono & date.
What price range would be acceptable for a re-dial as I probably can't afford a legitimate?
Have you looked through the UG subforum?Original dials galore!
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·@Timmovitz
an original dial for sale here and a terrific start to a UG collection:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-geneve-polerouter-date.43432/
an original dial for sale here and a terrific start to a UG collection:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-geneve-polerouter-date.43432/
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Boudica
·New Polerouter just come up on ebay.
Unusual orange/ brown colour of the chapter ring/ inner bezel, I've never seen this before...
Any thoughts on it?
Few things I've noticed is the minute markers dont meet up inline with the chapter/bezel.
No serial number on the case back.
font and crosshairs look a bit thick and fresh.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-U...443838?hash=item1c711768be:g:d98AAOSwzaJX7Ah9
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Unusual orange/ brown colour of the chapter ring/ inner bezel, I've never seen this before...
Any thoughts on it?
Few things I've noticed is the minute markers dont meet up inline with the chapter/bezel.
No serial number on the case back.
font and crosshairs look a bit thick and fresh.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-U...443838?hash=item1c711768be:g:d98AAOSwzaJX7Ah9
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papaebetu
·Two Compax Dial here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-2-Dial...639812?hash=item1a1ca3b284:g:vCUAAOSw4shX6UAz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-2-Dial...639812?hash=item1a1ca3b284:g:vCUAAOSw4shX6UAz
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Diabolik
·I think one should not pay much for redial, if u look hard enough, u can still come by legitimate one at 3-4K usd, just have to be patient. Below is a genuine dial (but whether it comes with the case or not is a matter for debate 😜 )
Very hard to find originals. I am surprised at the number of redials out there. I can accept a lume job if done conscientously but not a redail, no matter how good. As discussed, the value of a redial is the sum of parts which should be in the region of USD2K. Much better off with an original weathered dial than a redial.
Value of an original in all respects depends very much on condition USD3-4K will get you a smaller 34mm and with a little more, you should be able to find a very nice example for USD5-6K in the current market. You can easily add USD2-3K to that for oversize tri compax models.
here are two sourced from other forum members for reference ...
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Is this legit? Are all UG crown supposed to be signed in the 1940-50's? 18k gold 37,5mm & original dial or very good redial? Price range?
I am struggling to work this one out. However, one thing is clear, dial is all wrong! Chapter (tachy and minute) are too small. I will go for a redial probably using an original plate/cliche ... Crown is 60's but not a big deal as crowns were unmarked and pretty generic in that era. What is the serial and reference number ?
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Diabolik
·Two Compax Dial here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-2-Dial...639812?hash=item1a1ca3b284:g:vCUAAOSw4shX6UAz
Pity about the lume. Although I have nothing against reluming if done conscientiously, it does seem that whoever did that dial was a little too generous. Lume was very subtle and minimal on those dials.
Original Lume
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Diabolik
·No, the opposite ....
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Boudica
·New Polerouter just come up on ebay.
Unusual orange/ brown colour of the chapter ring/ inner bezel, I've never seen this before...
Any thoughts on it?
Few things I've noticed is the minute markers dont meet up inline with the chapter/bezel.
No serial number on the case back.
font and crosshairs look a bit thick and fresh.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-U...443838?hash=item1c711768be:g:d98AAOSwzaJX7Ah9
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