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Universal Geneve buckle 16mm stainless steel

  1. durri70 Aug 14, 2020

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    Hello to all,
    hope all of you are in good health :)
    I have this buckle and would like to know your opinion as I don't see any inscription or marking inside the buckle , do you think is 100% genuine ? if so from what period should it be as UG signature was changing .
    thanks a lot
    David
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  2. CafeRacer Aug 14, 2020

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    My opinion is, it looks fake.
    It looks like the logo is genuine, from a type 1 14mm buckle (1950s), but it has been put onto some aftermarket 16mm buckle and heavily polished to try to disguise it...
    Obviously, the 16mm demand a higher price in the market than 14mm, so it would make sense from an "economic" point to try this...
     
  3. bgrisso Aug 14, 2020

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    I've never seen a UG buckle that looks like that before.

    Here's a 14mm that I just recently bought....
     
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  4. durri70 Aug 17, 2020

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    thanks for your feedback, I bought it together with a watch and my watchmaker said it's genuine but I have my doubts as no marks on the inner part of the buckle, that's why I asked. thanks
     
  5. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 17, 2020

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    These are a dammed minefield. I’m seeing a fake. That said, its more fun than a generic buckle.
     
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  6. CafeRacer Aug 18, 2020

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    FYI, there is a fake buckle producer in Northern Italy (outside Milan), who seems to have made bags full of them in steel and "gold colour", for 14 and 16mm strap ends.
    Most of his fakes seem to be copies of the type 2 style buckle.
    In short, beware of any buckles coming from Italy, particularly when the seller has more than 1, and of course analyse them very closely...
    (just a public service announcement for the UG forum) ;)
     
  7. Woops Aug 18, 2020

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    Totally agree. I bought one such buckle from him just to see what they were. It bent like a paperclip, suffered corrosion immediately and I ended up throwing it out. AVOID.
     
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  8. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Aug 18, 2020

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    Looks like a modern copy to my eyes.
     
  9. durri70 Sep 20, 2020

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    thanks
     
  10. Adam2941 Sep 30, 2020

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    Looks fake, due to the "melted ice cream" appearance. It was probably made from a mold made from an original, and in the process the sharp edges became rounded. Also the lack of hallmarks is suspicious.
     
  11. berrychlossom Jan 14, 2021

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    I just got mine in the mail, a steel buckle and a UG leather strap for my Polerouter. The buckle up close doesn't look like the one @bgrisso shared. Wondering if I bought a fake ...
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  12. OllieOnTheRocks Jan 14, 2021

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    Looks good to me! I missed out on one of these on eBay a week or two ago! Sold for £104! But I’d wait for @CafeRacer to give you a professional opinion
     
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  13. bgrisso Jan 14, 2021

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  14. Carlton-Browne Jan 14, 2021

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    I don't see a problem - looks fine.
     
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  15. berrychlossom Jan 14, 2021

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    I wish I paid that little :))
     
  16. berrychlossom Jan 14, 2021

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    Thanks everyone for chiming in!
     
  17. Burr Jan 15, 2021

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    @berrychlossom nice buckle, makes me want to hunt down a UG buckle now..
     
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  18. CafeRacer Jan 15, 2021

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    That one was 14mm inner diameter - the title was misleading, in the description it was stated 16mm outer and 14mm inner.
    (...and my opinion is neither professional nor guaranteed to be correct :p)

    @berrychlossom the strap/buckle you posted looks fine to me. :)
     
  19. berrychlossom Jan 15, 2021

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    Thanks! The seller I bought it from has a few, DM me if you want his info. Also I've seen a few postings on universalgenevepolerouter.com marketplace.
     
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  20. OllieOnTheRocks Jan 15, 2021

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    How much was it out of interest?