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Universal Geneve buckle 16mm stainless steel

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“Plaque G” on a purported steel buckle is never a good sign.
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Well, I cleaned it up a little and looking at it closely, I does say "Plaque G" and has an "AW" in a rectangle as well as "DEPOSE SWISS" . However, it is not yellow gold, it is probably white gold.

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Well, I cleaned it up a little and looking at it closely, I does say "Plaque G" and has an "AW" in a rectangle as well as "DEPOSE SWISS" . However, it is not yellow gold, it is probably white gold.

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Plaqué G means gold plated in French.
 
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I was doing some research on gold plating techniques, it was saying that brass was often plated with nickel before being plated with gold, I wonder if we could be looking at nickel?
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I disagree ... Here are some genuine buckles. As you can see the stamped "acier inox", "depose" and "swiss" lines up and is identical. I have not seen any fake buckle with the such fine and clean print. Usually they have none and if the do, it is never crisp and clean.

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"Here are some genuine buckles." ...and your evidence that they are genuine is what, exactly?
 
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I have made my evidence quite clear. The buckles you see are from old threads apart from the last one. What is your evidence or proof that they are fakes ... exactly ??
 
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I was doing some research on gold plating techniques, it was saying that brass was often plated with nickel before being plated with gold, I wonder if we could be looking at nickel?
sounds plausible. However, the buckle says plaque G" ...
 
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A nice fake buckle from japan currently on the Bay ...

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Japanese fake buckle
I’ve come across these quite frequently on different watches from Japan, which makes me think they may have been locally sourced and added by the importer back in the 60s/70s.
 
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I’ve come across these quite frequently on different watches from Japan, which makes me think they may have been locally sourced and added by the importer back in the 60s/70s.
At $600 a pop, i'd say that is a very nice little earner ...
 
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Dug this one up which is unique ... can anyone shed any light on the inscription ?]
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That is standard hallmarking for a US market buckle. My guess on the inscription is that it looks like a New York City address.

https://www.google.com/search?q=33+...CCLACAfEFXb9LkFssEqM&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

That address is currently occupied by the State University of New York School of Optometry, but who knows what was there around 1950 when that watch was originally awarded.

Edit - The Google knows!
In 1950, 33 W. 42nd Street (overlooking Bryant Park) was primarily known as the Aeolian Building. It was a prominent Midtown office tower that notably housed the headquarters of the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA. [1, 2]
The Art Deco-era property was also a major hub for business services, professional offices (such as dentists and legal practices), and publishing firms. In later decades (1970 onwards), the building was repurposed as the Graduate Center for the City University of New York (CUNY) and is currently the home of the SUNY College of Optometry. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
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