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berrychlossom
·How much was it out of interest?
Universal Geneve buckle 16mm stainless steel
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10H10
·I've never seen a UG buckle that looks like that before.
Here's a 14mm that I just recently bought....
Again, sorry for my humble opinion, I have authentic SS UG bucles and they are crisp and without the filling inside the 'U'.
Now, If someone doesn't agree with me, it is ok, I respect all your opinions !
Cheers
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bgrisso
·I am really sorry, but these looks fake to me, there should not be anything between the 'U', it is ugly and 'Brute' thus not explainable...
Again, sorry for my humble opinion, I have authentic SS UG bucles and they are crisp and without the filling inside the 'U'.
Now, If someone doesn't agree with me, it is ok, I respect all your opinions !
Cheers 😝
This is a known example in 14mm, with the material between the U, rather than the "empty" U style being posted in some of the 16mm examples in this thread (and other smaller sizes as well). You can see them in UG adverts and materials, will include one here.
As an aside, I was just talking with someone who felt these filled U 14mm SS buckles are the "proper" style for 50s/60s sport UG watches like stainless Tri and Big Eye, because they are used in promo materials by UG at that time.
Personally I am not crazy about the 20 to 14mm or 19 to 14mm taper, and it also very much limits strap options, so I prefer the "empty" U 16mm stainless, which allows for a very wide range of strap options, and I prefer the thicker strap size at the buckle. But that's just me.
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olivierw
·This is a known example in 14mm, with the material between the U, rather than the "empty" U style being posted in some of the 16mm examples in this thread (and other smaller sizes as well). The "filled" U comes in SS and gold plated. You can see them in UG adverts and materials, will include one here.
As an aside, I was just talking with someone who felt these filled U 14mm SS buckles are the "proper" style for 50s/60s sport UG watches like stainless Tri and Big Eye, because they are used in promo materials by UG at that time.
Personally I am not crazy about the 20 to 14mm or 19 to 14mm taper, and it also very much limits strap options, so I prefer the "empty" U 16mm stainless, which allows for a very wide range of strap options, and I prefer the thicker strap size at the buckle. But that's just me.
i think you are maybe referring to me ! (Still some buckles in stock by the way...)
Fully agree with you, these plain buckles are not fake at all, they are just less « seen » on the market recently. They were installed mainly on 70s sports models.
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bgrisso
·i think you are maybe referring to me ! (Still some buckles in stock by the way...)
Fully agree with you, these plain buckles are not fake at all, they are just less « seen » on the market recently. They were installed mainly on 70s sports models.
Indeed, nice to see you here !
This thread is slightly confusing, as the majority of the dialogue is not about the OP buckle, which is fake, just wanted that to be clear for the future.
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·My opinion is, it looks fake.
It looks like the logo is genuine, from a type 1 14mm buckle (1950s), but it has been put onto some aftermarket 16mm buckle and heavily polished to try to disguise it...
Obviously, the 16mm demand a higher price in the market than 14mm, so it would make sense from an "economic" point to try this...
have you pictured type 1 type 2 and type 3 buckles on the Polerouter website?
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·I am really sorry, but these looks fake to me, there should not be anything between the 'U', it is ugly and 'Brute' thus not explainable...
Again, sorry for my humble opinion, I have authentic SS UG bucles and they are crisp and without the filling inside the 'U'.
Now, If someone doesn't agree with me, it is ok, I respect all your opinions !
Cheers 😝
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Woops
·As an aside, I was just talking with someone who felt these filled U 14mm SS buckles are the "proper" style for 50s/60s sport UG watches like stainless Tri and Big Eye....
I’m hurt you talk to other people about this stuff, B. I agree with you, though, @olivierw
....because they are used in promo materials by UG at that time.
.....and also because I have a NOS example in my hand 😁
My research confirms that this uncommon rallye strap was offered an as option with the Big Eye Compax in the mid 60s. It is fitted with a “Type 3” buckle as you can see.
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bgrisso
·I’m hurt you talk to other people about this stuff, B. I agree with you, though, @olivierw
.....and also because I have a NOS example in my hand 😁
My research confirms that this uncommon rallye strap was offered an as option with the Big Eye Compax in the mid 60s. It is fitted with a “Type 3” buckle as you can see.
wow that’s gorgeous. It’s a 20mm strap?
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·I’m hurt you talk to other people about this stuff, B. I agree with you, though, @olivierw
.....and also because I have a NOS example in my hand 😁
My research confirms that this uncommon rallye strap was offered an as option with the Big Eye Compax in the mid 60s. It is fitted with a “Type 3” buckle as you can see.
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10H10
·This is a known example in 14mm, with the material between the U, rather than the "empty" U style being posted in some of the 16mm examples in this thread (and other smaller sizes as well). You can see them in UG adverts and materials, will include one here.
As an aside, I was just talking with someone who felt these filled U 14mm SS buckles are the "proper" style for 50s/60s sport UG watches like stainless Tri and Big Eye, because they are used in promo materials by UG at that time.
Personally I am not crazy about the 20 to 14mm or 19 to 14mm taper, and it also very much limits strap options, so I prefer the "empty" U 16mm stainless, which allows for a very wide range of strap options, and I prefer the thicker strap size at the buckle. But that's just me.
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Burr
·As someone who doesn’t know much about UG buckles yet, this is turning into a great reference thread. Thanks everyone! I’m sure I’m not the only one who will benefit from this thread in future UG buckle hunts
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AE379
·What do you think of this one? No stamps, as far as I can see. Would that be a certain disqualifier?
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·Thought I take this opportunity to add another, later, style of UG buckle. These would have been issued on watches from the 70's. I've mostly seen them on watches from the Shadow and Altesse line. Both are 14mm and don't have any stamps on the back of them.
Interestingly, the NOS gold one I have has a price on it of 3,500 yen. If we assume its from 1970 and a quick web search put inflation from then at 223%. So 11,300 yen now, which is around £72.50 ($98).
Interestingly, the NOS gold one I have has a price on it of 3,500 yen. If we assume its from 1970 and a quick web search put inflation from then at 223%. So 11,300 yen now, which is around £72.50 ($98).
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osterman
·Hi. I've just bought a Polerouter 204503-3, which should be from 1959-60.
I'd like to know what is the correct buckle for the period.
I've read about type 1, 2 and 3, but I am missing photos and the related period.
Thanks for your help.
I'd like to know what is the correct buckle for the period.
I've read about type 1, 2 and 3, but I am missing photos and the related period.
Thanks for your help.
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