UG n00b displays his ignorance

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felsby

·Nov 30, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

I am mostly into Omegas, but the qualities of Universal Geneve watches are not wasted on me.
I have the opportunity to buy this watch. It is not a model I know - to me it looks like a Polerouter without “Polerouter” on the dial.
Can a patient OF member point me in the right direction if I want to educate myself?

 

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time-after-time

·Nov 30, 2025

Do you have a photo of the back case? If we know the reference number, we can check to see if the dial is "right" for that reference number.

 

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felsby

·Nov 30, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

T time-after-time

Do you have a photo of the back case? If we know the reference number, we can check to see if the dial is "right" for that reference number.

Thanks - I will request it.

 

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Mazoue

·Dec 1, 2025

Dial looks to be original and matches movement but it looks to be in the wrong case

 

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felsby

·Dec 1, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

Mazoue

Dial looks to be original and matches movement but it looks to be in the wrong case

Thanks! Good that these dials exist, I never saw one before. But the case is a Polerouter case, I guess?

 

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Mazoue

·Dec 1, 2025

It's possibly a dial from a Polerouter De Luxe (without the model name) but in a steel Polerouter case rather than its original 18K case

Dial and movement from US import watch

 

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felsby

·Dec 1, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

Back case looks like it has been tampered with.

 

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gatorcpa

·Dec 1, 2025·ΩF InvestiGator

Without a case reference number, it’s difficult to know what you have there.

My guess is that dial and movement are original. Since this is a U.S. import movement, almost anything else is possible. Most likely a Polerouter case with correct chapter ring.

I would price this as a frankenwatch and try to buy it cheap.
gatorcpa

 

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felsby

·Dec 1, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

gatorcpa

Without a case reference number, it’s difficult to know what you have there.

My guess is that dial and movement are original. Since this is a U.S. import movement, almost anything else is possible. Most likely a Polerouter case with correct chapter ring.

I would price this as a frankenwatch and try to buy it cheap.
gatorcpa

Thanks a lot, you support my conclusion.

 

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CafeRacer

·Dec 1, 2025

The dial and movement are from a US-market 10356 reference, and the case is from a small case 60s steel polerouter, e.g. 20368 or 204610.

 

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Deafboy

·Dec 1, 2025·His Holiness Puer Surdus

Maybe a Frankenwatch, but I think it looks good.

 

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felsby

·Dec 1, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

CafeRacer

The dial and movement are from a US-market 10356 reference, and the case is from a small case 60s steel polerouter, e.g. 20368 or 204610.

Thanks! Would be interesting to trace a genuine 10356 but chances are low.
What bothers me is the broad chapter ring in “my” watch positioned inside the crystal in Polerouter style while 10356 seemingly had the markers outside the crystal: https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/universal-geneve-cioccolatone-polerouter

Edited: Dec 1, 2025

 

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·Dec 1, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

Deafboy

Maybe a Frankenwatch, but I think it looks good.

It sure does.

 

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CafeRacer

·Dec 2, 2025

felsby

Thanks! Would be interesting to trace a genuine 10356 but chances are low.
What bothers me is the broad chapter ring in “my” watch positioned inside the crystal in Polerouter style while 10356 seemingly had the markers outside the crystal: https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/universal-geneve-cioccolatone-polerouter

Thats just the ring from a 20368 reference - it is a seperate piece, and not part of your dial, just sits over the top of it.

 

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felsby

·Dec 2, 2025·I don't see any option in settings or profile

thanks, @CafeRacer

Just for shows: the possible dial in question

 

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CafeRacer

·Dec 2, 2025

10356 is just the case reference - there is a subreference after this, e.g. " - 1 " (with or without the dash depending on serial/year) which denotes the dial colour/configuration. 10356-1 / 10359-1 is what your dial is most likely from. That photo you have attached above is a -3 subreference with a black dial. This is all pretty standard UG referencing format for that period.