UG Calatrava ref. 212207

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ma_kilian

·Jan 16, 2020

Dear OF

This is my first thread here, i came across to a lovely UG calatrava ref. 212207 trough IG (via avocadovintagewatches).

The dial looks ok to me, but i am a bit curious about the crown? shall i pull the trigger?

Is there anyone here who knows that reference and is able to share some information about it?

This is the watch:

thank you,

Martin

 

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Tony C.

·Jan 16, 2020·Ωf Jury member

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Dear OF

shall i pull the trigger?

No you shan't.

🙄

 

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ma_kilian

·Jan 16, 2020

hm could you explain why?

 

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Larry S

·Jan 16, 2020·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Let’s start with lume on dial but not hands. Then the printing is suspect. Then it appears as if the lume was removed from hour indices. This thing has been messed with, big time.

 

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ma_kilian

·Jan 16, 2020

Thanks a lot!

 

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bgrisso

·Jan 16, 2020

I don't know if I'm missing something but the dial looks fine to me. I don't see any lume on the dial, looks like metal nipples? Crown looks wrong. Need to know case size to evaluate if price is ok.

 

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Larry S

·Jan 16, 2020·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Went to the site ... better on printing but dial definitely appears to be lumed. Crown is probably not correct.

 

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ma_kilian

·Jan 17, 2020

@bgrisso : i have the same guess, i am not sure if its lume or metal nipples.
@yala: what do you think?

 

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rustynuts

·Jan 17, 2020

I'm not seeing any lume either - metal divots and what might be mirrored/foil type numerals?

 

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Larry S

·Jan 17, 2020·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Wow ... guess we all need better pics then. I defer to the three hand experts here. I will allow that the gold furniture and foil/paint is plausible.

 

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bgrisso

·Jan 17, 2020

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@bgrisso : i have the same guess, i am not sure if its lume or metal nipples.
@yala: what do you think?

Metal, no lume.

What's the case size?

 

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yala

·Jan 18, 2020

bgrisso

Metal, no lume.

What's the case size?

Agreed on the dots - looks like brass to me.

 

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budgewink

·Jan 18, 2020

Is it me or do the hour and minute hand look different metals or have aged differently?

 

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Modest_Proposal

·Jan 18, 2020

Yup - those nipples never held lume. Just brass.

 

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Larry S

·Jan 18, 2020·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Modest_Proposal

Yup - those nipples never held lume. Just brass.

What about the numbers? Paint? Foil ? Lume?

 

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CaptainWinsor

·Jan 18, 2020

Obviously I know nothing about UG but this other one from him has a cool dial. Love the dots around the sub second

 

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Modest_Proposal

·Jan 18, 2020

Larry S

What about the numbers? Paint? Foil ? Lume?

I would say likely foil. Though I think the dial may have been refinished, if not for the font, then for the finish. There's some crazing/cracking around 8 o'clock. A refinish would have unnaturally faded the numerals.

 

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Modest_Proposal

·Jan 18, 2020

For a reference of the logo, you can do no better than this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/an-...hield-on-dial-of-early-ug-three-hander.86515/

 

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vacheroyale

·Jan 28, 2020

CaptainWinsor

Obviously I know nothing about UG but this other one from him has a cool dial. Love the dots around the sub second

Very unique , it does a lot of relief

 

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hejsam

·Feb 4, 2022

Just stumbled across this thread and sorry for digging it up, but would just like for the record share some picture of mine which is the same reference and same dial configuration. It can maybe help someone else in the future!

Hope these pictures give a better view of the dial but its definitely metal nipples and mirrored indices, so not lume anywhere on these dials.
Crown also looks similar to mine but obviously more wear on OPs example, so guessing its original.