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UG Calatrava ref. 212207

  1. ma_kilian

    ma_kilian Jan 16, 2020

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    Dear OF

    This is my first thread here, i came across to a lovely UG calatrava ref. 212207 trough IG (via avocadovintagewatches).

    The dial looks ok to me, but i am a bit curious about the crown? shall i pull the trigger?

    Is there anyone here who knows that reference and is able to share some information about it?

    This is the watch:

    thank you,

    Martin

    Bildschirmfoto 2020-01-16 um 14.42.46.png
     
  2. Tony C.

    Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jan 16, 2020

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    No you shan't.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  3. ma_kilian

    ma_kilian Jan 16, 2020

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    hm could you explain why?
     
  4. Larry S

    Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 16, 2020

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    Let’s start with lume on dial but not hands. Then the printing is suspect. Then it appears as if the lume was removed from hour indices. This thing has been messed with, big time.
     
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  5. ma_kilian

    ma_kilian Jan 16, 2020

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    Thanks a lot!
     
  6. bgrisso

    bgrisso Jan 16, 2020

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    I don't know if I'm missing something but the dial looks fine to me. I don't see any lume on the dial, looks like metal nipples? Crown looks wrong. Need to know case size to evaluate if price is ok.
     
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  7. Larry S

    Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 16, 2020

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    Went to the site ... better on printing but dial definitely appears to be lumed. Crown is probably not correct.
     
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  8. ma_kilian

    ma_kilian Jan 17, 2020

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    @bgrisso : i have the same guess, i am not sure if its lume or metal nipples.
    @yala: what do you think?
     
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  9. rustynuts

    rustynuts Jan 17, 2020

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    I'm not seeing any lume either - metal divots and what might be mirrored/foil type numerals?

    dial.jpg
     
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  10. Larry S

    Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 17, 2020

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    Wow ... guess we all need better pics then. I defer to the three hand experts here. I will allow that the gold furniture and foil/paint is plausible.
     
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  11. bgrisso

    bgrisso Jan 17, 2020

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    Metal, no lume.

    What's the case size?
     
  12. yala

    yala Jan 18, 2020

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    Agreed on the dots - looks like brass to me.
     
  13. budgewink

    budgewink Jan 18, 2020

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    Is it me or do the hour and minute hand look different metals or have aged differently?
     
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  14. Modest_Proposal

    Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Jan 18, 2020

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    Yup - those nipples never held lume. Just brass.
     
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  15. Larry S

    Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 18, 2020

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    What about the numbers? Paint? Foil ? Lume?
     
  16. CaptainWinsor

    CaptainWinsor Jan 18, 2020

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    Obviously I know nothing about UG but this other one from him has a cool dial. Love the dots around the sub second

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  17. Modest_Proposal

    Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Jan 18, 2020

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    I would say likely foil. Though I think the dial may have been refinished, if not for the font, then for the finish. There's some crazing/cracking around 8 o'clock. A refinish would have unnaturally faded the numerals.
     
  18. Modest_Proposal

    Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Jan 18, 2020

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  19. vacheroyale

    vacheroyale Jan 28, 2020

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    Very unique , it does a lot of relief