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·I think what has tipped the scales (pun intended) is that every eating and drinking establishment--from Starbucks/coffee shops to self-service / order-at-the-counter eateries--has implemented tipping as a routine part of the paying process. Even drive throughs. It's absurd. And the resentment has spilled over into the rest of the restaurant industry.
While the oft-quoted excuse that a non-tip based / salaried EU-like system would result in higher costs being transferred on to the US consumer, I think that's a load of BS... non-US dining (whether it's casual or fine) isn't any more expensive...somehow every other country is able to manage a system where the salaries of food service employees aren't transferred onto the consumer.
--AND...while this thread is about tipping, I think an inherent part of the discussion is about food quality, and the quality of the MAJORITY of food in the US food industry is ABSOLUTE SHITE. It's all Sysco, US Foods, PFG...they all literally serve the same mass-produced crap, from the feedlot beef to the massive pesticide/herbicide treated vegetables, and that is almost everything in the US food industry save some smaller restaurants and fine dining.
People in the US don't care about quality, they care about quantity and 'bang for buck.' Take a look at the quality of food in our public school system...it is literal gas station food (US GAS STATION that is...I've eaten at nicer gas stations in France than almost every chain restaurant in the US.).
I live in Iowa. The number one pizza in the state is Caseys. It's a gas station. Because every small town has one, and no one wants to cook, and it's cheaper than dirt. [not a coincidence that Iowa has the fastest growing cancer rate in the US]
The standards for food quality in this county are abysmal.
While the oft-quoted excuse that a non-tip based / salaried EU-like system would result in higher costs being transferred on to the US consumer, I think that's a load of BS... non-US dining (whether it's casual or fine) isn't any more expensive...somehow every other country is able to manage a system where the salaries of food service employees aren't transferred onto the consumer.
--AND...while this thread is about tipping, I think an inherent part of the discussion is about food quality, and the quality of the MAJORITY of food in the US food industry is ABSOLUTE SHITE. It's all Sysco, US Foods, PFG...they all literally serve the same mass-produced crap, from the feedlot beef to the massive pesticide/herbicide treated vegetables, and that is almost everything in the US food industry save some smaller restaurants and fine dining.
People in the US don't care about quality, they care about quantity and 'bang for buck.' Take a look at the quality of food in our public school system...it is literal gas station food (US GAS STATION that is...I've eaten at nicer gas stations in France than almost every chain restaurant in the US.).
I live in Iowa. The number one pizza in the state is Caseys. It's a gas station. Because every small town has one, and no one wants to cook, and it's cheaper than dirt. [not a coincidence that Iowa has the fastest growing cancer rate in the US]
The standards for food quality in this county are abysmal.
