The ULTIMATE Seamaster de Ville thread

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Assuming the serial number in the paperwork is accurate, the watch was assembled in 1968/9 so a purchase date of 1970 seems reasonable. Fairly common Seamaster model with a diamond dial that has been refinished. Aftermarket bracelet. Movement is likely a cal. 550/2. Paperwork suggests the case is 14k gold, and the bracelet may likewise be solid gold so there some value there.
Thank you for all of your detective work. But What makes you say the dial was refinished???
 
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I did notice that the 3 and 9 indices are a little askew. What else makes you think the dial was touched? I just got it back from a service, so I’d really like to hear your input.

 
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The ‘Automatic’ and ‘Seamaster De Ville’ printing is a bit sloppy. Also, there appears to be no ‘Swiss Made’ below the 6 o’clock marker.
 
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Thank you for all of your detective work. But What makes you say the dial was refinished???
The font is slightly off, notably the 'e', 's' and 'r' in Seamaster. Did you buy this on Ebay on 1/20 for $3495?
 
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I did notice that the 3 and 9 indices are a little askew. What else makes you think the dial was touched? I just got it back from a service, so I’d really like to hear your input.

You asked what cal. this might be in your original post, and it's almost certainly a 550/2. If you just got it back from a service, maybe they'd be able to tell you?
 
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The ‘Automatic’ and ‘Seamaster De Ville’ printing is a bit sloppy. Also, there appears to be no ‘Swiss Made’ below the 6 o’clock marker.
You’re 100% correct. I didn’t realize that when I purchased it. I wonder when that happened and why. It’s such a strange decision to have messed with that dial. Very odd. And thank you for your insight.
 
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I'll take a better few pictures tonight, but this is my current project. it's not FULLY on par with some other watches I've worked on, I need to get the regulation down, but it's (as far as I know) original. I dont think it's a redial, but I'll leave it to you all to decide. I absolutely love this watch, its also one of the ones I'll never let go. More pictures to follow.
 
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Any thoughts about this SMDV? The dealer lists this as a ST 166.0161. But I can't seem to find much more info on it. The included papers suggest that it was originally bought in 1980, and the Omega site lists the ST 166.0161 (https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-de-ville-omega-st-166-0161) as released in 1973. The strap is obviously new.

My thoughts are it's rather unremarkable and nowadays there are many other SMDVs available in superior condition.
 
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I'll take a better few pictures tonight, but this is my current project. it's not FULLY on par with some other watches I've worked on, I need to get the regulation down, but it's (as far as I know) original. I dont think it's a redial, but I'll leave it to you all to decide. I absolutely love this watch, its also one of the ones I'll never let go. More pictures to follow.
Based upon your picture... yeah it's a redial. The printing of 'Automatic, Seamaster, De Ville' is way off. Lettering too thick, asymmetrical, should probably be gilt, silver colored and reflect light instead of being white. See for yourself if the 'T's in Automatic and the 'a's in Seamaster are exactly the same, if not you've got a redial. What's up with the stem/crown on this thing? This SMDV is certainly unique.
 
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Based upon your picture... yeah it's a redial. The printing of 'Automatic, Seamaster, De Ville' is way off. Lettering too thick, asymmetrical, should probably be gilt, silver colored and reflect light instead of being white. See for yourself if the 'T's in Automatic and the 'a's in Seamaster are exactly the same, if not you've got a redial. What's up with the stem/crown on this thing? This SMDV is certainly unique.
If it's a redial, it's an old redial as this thing has age on it. So it was either redialed years ago, or was left to the elements after the redial. I bought it as such, so if the crown/stem are off, that's a new one on me. I'll take better pictures than this initial one and let you all dissect it. I know the internals are all true omega.
 
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It could indeed have been re-dialed many years ago. The watch is likely 50+_ years old and finishes were/are perishable if exposed to moisture etc. The stem/crown comment was likely because the stem/tube and crown are further from the side of the case than I believe any of us have seen on a fully factory watch. It may indeed be an authentic watch it just would mean some watchmaker sometime in it's history put a tube of an improper length or type on the watch, a condition that a competent watchmaker with a parts account or access to vintage parts could easily remedy. Better photos would certainly be helpful to those who know far more than i for sure. One question I have is the alignment of the 3 o'clock index. It may be just the picture but to my eye it seems slightly slanted (hence the need for more shots).
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It could indeed have been re-dialed many years ago. The watch is likely 50+_ years old and finishes were/are perishable if exposed to moisture etc. The stem/crown comment was likely because the stem/tube and crown are further from the side of the case than I believe any of us have seen on a fully factory watch. It may indeed be an authentic watch it just would mean some watchmaker sometime in it's history put a tube of an improper length or type on the watch, a condition that a competent watchmaker with a parts account or access to vintage parts could easily remedy. Better photos would certainly be helpful to those who know far more than i for sure. One question I have is the alignment of the 3 o'clock index. It may be just the picture but to my eye it seems slightly slanted (hence the need for more shots).
if it's fake or bad reproduction, then I'm learning what to catch and find. I can order the correct parts and fix what's been changed. I've tried to take good angles under a lense with light, and no glass (still working on it) the lettering does have a halo around it of paint being lost or age? I can replace the stem/tube with a correct one if needed. Appreciate the insight and knowledge. Thank you!
 
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My gut feeling was redial but based on those new photos, it’s original.
 
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My gut feeling was redial but based on those new photos, it’s original.
I know that black dials from the 60s was rare as it wasn't the fashion, so I've always been wary of this one. I agree with you all that the stem is long and I am looking at replacing it. Any suggestion on how to clean the hands up, they've obviously got some age, and thank you all for being forgiving of the fibers i have all over! They were hasty pictures and I haven't dusted the watch off for the glass yet.
 
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You could try with a bit of cape cod or town talk polish, or even a fibreglass brush but be careful as obviously they can be bent and the plated surface layer is thin and can wear through.
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So I am confident the crown is the wrong length. Anyone know the correct part the order for the correct size? This is the one that came with the watch but I'm now a firm believer it is too long.

It could indeed have been re-dialed many years ago. The watch is likely 50+_ years old and finishes were/are perishable if exposed to moisture etc. The stem/crown comment was likely because the stem/tube and crown are further from the side of the case than I believe any of us have seen on a fully factory watch. It may indeed be an authentic watch it just would mean some watchmaker sometime in it's history put a tube of an improper length or type on the watch, a condition that a competent watchmaker with a parts account or access to vintage parts could easily remedy. Better photos would certainly be helpful to those who know far more than i for sure. One question I have is the alignment of the 3 o'clock index. It may be just the picture but to my eye it seems slightly slanted (hence the need for more shots).