The Timeless Watch Channel from YouTube won’t return Bogart watch [Watches now Returned]

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@collector1946 IF you have to retrieve this package from the courier: knowing your limited mobility/arm strength due to stroke and knowing you are in the UK, might there be a member on the forum willing to coordinate the retrieval with you to help you document the unboxing?
Depending where you are I’d be happy to help out.

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The best is to have someone go with you and film right there and then, as you open it on the counter top in front of the attendants of the shipment company. I’ve done this once and it’s hard to do if you’re on your own.

And to be completely precise, you need to ensure the person filming will first film legibly all of the labels and tracking numbers on the package, and without any interruptions film the opening of the package, the unwrapping of everything in between without taking the camera away from the package until you pull out the contents and can show it visibly.
 
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Oh there’s plenty of livestreams with some other watch guys where they all sit in their little rooms and deblaterate about me and my life, browsing through my social medias and giving their opinions about any detail. The story from my side was posted on Instagram in this screenshot:
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This is not how real men handle rejection, this is childish and cowardice. Stealing and swindling could be done for a number of reasones, greed, poverty or what ever reason a person could have. But this shows who this scumbag realy are. Real men handle rejection by holding their head high with confidence and being a gentleman. (and sobbing into the pillow when no one can see of course)
 
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And to be completely precise, you need to ensure the person filming will first film legibly all of the labels and tracking numbers on the package, and without any interruptions film the opening of the package, the unwrapping of everything in between without taking the camera away from the package until you pull out the contents and can show it visibly.

Help needed for this...... not a Youtber??? PM me please
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Anyone know of a Youtuber that want's to film an intresting watch ??? PM me please
You don’t need another YouTuber. Just anyone with a camera/phone willing to document the collection/unboxing for proof.
 
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this is really another distraction for at least two reasons

I think my comment was misunderstood. I don't care what this Oisin guy believes and this question does not change the merit of the question at hand. To me, the watch is something that belongs to the OP, this is what counts for this discussion and everything else is better discussed elsewhere.
It only be bugged me, when people refer to this certificate of authenticity as leaving no questions, without having seen what it says and who issued it.
 
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I sincerely hope that @collector1946 gets his watch and documents back, but unless he has a real tracking number I'm afraid this is just more BS from the scammer. Just another delay tactic.
 
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Hope Usman and Collector1946 get their watches and funds back
Please everyone do NOT send your watches to these narcissistic YTubers. I know you may think they'll help hype your watch or side business and you will capitalize big (OP thought he would be able to fetch $500,000 for the gruen), but instead you will be dealing with this unfortunate headache.
As the great Archie Chesterfield the 3rd says, don't be a delusional fantasist.
 
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Hope Usman and Collector1946 get their watches and funds back
Please everyone do NOT send your watches to these narcissistic YTubers. I know you may think they'll help hype your watch or side business and you will capitalize big (OP thought he would be able to fetch $500,000 for the gruen), but instead you will be dealing with this unfortunate headache.
As the great Archie Chesterfield the 3rd says, don't be a delusional fantasist.

Just stop. You're admonition is just grating at this stage.
 
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OP thought he would be able to fetch $500,000 for the gruen),

I think you misread the OPs intended quip, which was essentially, “would I like to make a bunch of money? Sure who wouldn’t! But really all I cared about was sharing the story and just maybe someone would have more info about the watch”
 
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As the great Archie Chesterfield the 3rd says, don't be a delusional fantasist.

So Archie has self knowledge ????
😁
 
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I think you misread the OPs intended quip, which was essentially, “would I like to make a bunch of money? Sure who wouldn’t! But really all I cared about was sharing the story and just maybe someone would have more info about the watch”



Oh really? Just wanted to provide information to the community? C'mon, he thought it was going to break stories, get all this press and he would take care of Oisin after the hype as he himself has states that he needed the money. We all know Oisin is in the wrong, but let's not make up ones intentions.

Again, doesn't take away from Oisin essentially stealing the watch. Good on the community to pressure him into this, despite Nico being another shady individual, he did help bring light to this fraud.
 
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Oh really? Just wanted to provide information to the community? C'mon, he thought it was going to break stories, get all this press and he would take care of Oisin after the hype as he himself has states that he needed the money. We all know Oisin is in the wrong, but let's not make up ones intentions.

I quoted you asserting that OP expected $500,000 for the watch.

OP has always been clear he might one day hope the watch was valuable - you are posting a screenshot he provided you
 
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Don’t celebrate early, odds the box has a rock in it are very high (couldn’t agree more with video evidence). Oisin will now say he has no further responsibility, he sent it back and he’s not responsible for what happens in transit.
 
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Both Nico & Oisin are quite childish TBH.

After hearing Nico last night, came to the conclusion that the best grey market dealers are not on YouTube and keep low YouTube profiles; DavidSW, Takuya, OC Watch Guy, etc.
 
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I think I missed a step, did you get tracking info OP ?
Best wishes and fingers crossed for you.
 
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Both Nico & Oisin are quite childish TBH.

After hearing Nico last night, came to the conclusion that the best grey market dealers are not on YouTube and keep low YouTube profiles; DavidSW, Takuya, OC Watch Guy, etc.

The best grey market dealers are Rolex ADs.

OOPS, sorry wrong thread! 😁
 
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Isn't the message here, don't basically buy your watches from a Grey Dealer on the internet/off YouTube? It's too risky. I wouldn't trust any of these people tbh. I certainly would never send a watch to any YouTube chancer, Whether that's Oisin, Nico, TGE (is he still going?) or any of these guys.

Only guy outside an official retailer I've ever been comfortable dealing with is Johnathan from EWC. And he has a brick and mortar store, it's tangible.
Why must you insist on participating in this thread if you have nothing of value to add?
 
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Oh really? Just wanted to provide information to the community? C'mon, he thought it was going to break stories, get all this press and he would take care of Oisin after the hype as he himself has states that he needed the money. We all know Oisin is in the wrong, but let's not make up ones intentions.

Again, doesn't take away from Oisin essentially stealing the watch. Good on the community to pressure him into this, despite Nico being another shady individual, he did help bring light to this fraud.
Hi @Sendan

Welcome to the forum . Please take a breath , it is almost as if you are implying some underhanded intent on Ada and Mr OMalley. That is just marketing and product placement... nothing manufactured.

As I was told one screwup wipes out a entire year of atta boys .

Let see what happens next...

Be safe
Bill Sohne