The Return of the Mid Size SKX

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Was the 5 line that great to begin with though?

Well, I always got a pretty good workout shaking them around to get the movement started!

For what was lost in dropping the ISO cert, I think they've gained:
- having way more fun with co-branding and playful designs.
- drilled lugs.
- a movement that hacks and doesn't take effort to wind.
 
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Well, I always got a pretty good workout shaking them around to get the movement started!

For what was lost in dropping the ISO cert, I think they've gained:
- having way more fun with co-branding and playful designs.
- drilled lugs.
- a movement that hacks and doesn't take effort to wind.

Some nice funky designs among them, but they didn't exactly ooze quality. Perhaps I'm just being snobbish though. Anyway, I did own an SBCM023, which is pretty close to a 38 mm version of the SKX, and I remember feeling that one was very top-heavy even at a height of "only" 12 mm.
 
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Some nice funky designs among them, but they didn't exactly ooze quality. Perhaps I'm just being snobbish though. Anyway, I did own an SBCM023, which is pretty close to a 38 mm version of the SKX, and I remember feeling that one was very top-heavy even at a height of "only" 12 mm.

I definitely don't think of them as quality time pieces. They are chunky, top-heavy, they are only accurate to +/- 30 sec a day, etc.

But, for $200-$300 I think they are just fun. Like, how a swatch is a fun way to dress down and not take life too seriously.



Since you mentioned it, the SBCM023 is a cool Seiko - I'm not sure I've seen many quartz divers with a perpetual calendar. That caliber 8F35 is no joke either for that time period / price point - I think it's supposed to be accurate to like +/- 30 seconds a year and the battery lasts for several years?
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Maybe Seiko is looking at it long term climate for business, when watches will be merely a piece of jewelry and the accuracy of time keeping will not be important. Realistically, for most people, we don’t really need a watch to tell time. Computer aided machining and other technological advances have pretty much eliminated the need for individual highly skilled workmanship in watchmaking. That is why micro-brand watch companies can make watches just as good as many other famous brands at the fraction of their prices.

Now the people, who buys and collects watches for nostalgia, vintage connection, exclusivity etc. will continue to do so, but they will be doing so with more expensive and exclusive watches, which is a very special corner of the watch market.

Not too far into the future, watches will be disposable and people will be lining up to get the new yearly model like the Apple Watch or iPhone etc. I don’t know for fact but I would not be surprised to know that Seiko probably makes more profit from their quartz, “skx”, and “Seiko 5” models than grand Seiko and other expensive lines.

Originally, because of need to create a tool, actual watchmaker/engineer/craftsmen got into the business of watchmaking, but now Seiko like many others, are in the business of moneymaking.

This rant is not against Seiko; I am a big fan of Seiko watches, it’s history and innovativeness and have a few of them in my collection (not many because of my wrist size). I am just reflecting my humble opinion and trying to adjust to the change of times, which is inevitable my friend.
 
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I definitely don't think of them as quality time pieces. They are chunky, top-heavy, they are only accurate to +/- 30 sec a day, etc.

But, for $200-$300 I think they are just fun. Like, how a swatch is a fun way to dress down and not take life too seriously.



Since you mentioned it, the SBCM023 is a cool Seiko - I'm not sure I've seen many quartz divers with a perpetual calendar. That caliber 8F35 is no joke either for that time period / price point - I think it's supposed to be accurate to like +/- 30 seconds a year and the battery lasts for several years?

Definitely a well made and somewhat unique watch, but as I mentioned it felt a bit top heavy with its measurements, and a bit too dress-y for my taste (I like divers that look like they came from some forgotten locker on a 1980's il rig). To get back on topic, I think the 5KX are fine automatic watches for the price, but I'd like them to look and feel more utilitarian.
 
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I can see it as a diminishing of the SKX line which was not part of the 5 line ( which I agree with,) but not the other way around.
Yep, I also have a bnib skx in storage - I never understood why the skx007j/009j on rubber strap came with a Seiko 5 Sports tag - I agree it certainly wasn't a 5 in my view - pretty strange.