The next Speedmaster LE to go crazy? Trilogy…

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Yes! This is the one I’m talking about.
That movement is derived from the F Piguet designed 33X3 series and as such has no Lemania link. This means many turn their nose up at them since there is no direct 321 connection, thus no space chops. It’s a nice watch alright but I doubt it will take off like the Snoopy, Tin Tin etc. the 3313 is streets ahead of the 321/861 in every respect but that is overlooked if you want a space connection…
 
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I wouldn't mind all three!

Amen to that. Just missing the Railmaster. Love the Seamaster as well ... I find it too similar to the RM to justify both ...
 
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Is it the photos that make it unreadable? 😁
You’re supposed to be able to read it? I thought it was wrist candy. 😀
 
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That movement is derived from the F Piguet designed 33X3 series and as such has no Lemania link. ….. the 3313 is streets ahead of the 321/861 in every respect .…
For the horological heathens amongst us, i.e. me, could you elaborate on that? Anything to do with stability from that large, not quite A.Lange, top plate?
 
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For the horological heathens amongst us, i.e. me, could you elaborate on that? Anything to do with stability from that large, not quite A.Lange, top plate?
I was thinking in terms of the fact the 33x3 are based on the thinnest chrono ever produced, the 1180 and its auto form the 1185 and were equipped from the off (in modified Omega form) with column wheel switching, a free sprung balance and 28.8k frequency to which Omega ultimately added their coaxial excitement (of dubious merit it must be said). The 3313, particularly in triple layer C form is a pretty sophisticated thing and goes toe to toe, IMO with the fully in house 9XXX series in many ways and betters it in that you dont need a case like a boat anchor to house it. Though 30mm wide vs the 27mm of the Moonwatch movement, the auto 33X3 is actually thinner than the manual wind 321/861...
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33x3 are based on the thinnest chrono ever produced, the 1180

Used to be 😁

it’s rather portly this day and age
 
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Used to be 😁

it’s rather portly this day and age
Fair enough but the 1180 was pretty thin when introduced in the late 1980s, less than 4mm for the man wind, around 5.5mm for the auto. The 321 is about 6.75mm in comparison. The Omega 33x3 versions were thicker than the 1185 for performance and reliability reasons but still rather svelte and still thinner than the 321 (which is manual wind of course).

Out of interest, who has done a thinner chrono than the 1180? I would imagine someone has by now but can’t find it with a cursory Google. The more I look the more I think no one actually has…
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Speedy Tuesday 1 for me.

It’s the first iteration, looks great and like no other Speedmaster, both in terms of dial and case finish. It’s also not too gimmicky as in it’s not plastered with a cartoon dog, a movie secret agent or a Japanese superhero and was genuinely limited in its run.

 
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Out of interest, who has done a thinner chrono than the 1180? I would imagine someone has by now but can’t find it with a cursory Google. The more I look the more I think no one actually has…

The chrono Octo Finissimo is thinner by 1.34mm, and it’s an auto, and a GMT
 
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My guess is sterling silver dial Speedy, Apollo 17th 40th Anniversary. Why? Extremely different to all other Speedies. Not photogenic at all, majority of all watch enthusiasts were disgusted with pictures of the watch. They were sitting on the shelf at shops for almost 10 years. And it’s limited to even less pieces - 1972 to be precise. I bought new one for 4.500€ two years ago. See C24 how much they are now. Even over 10.000€…

If one were totally p#ssed and had a momentary lapse of madness, I still don’t think anyone would blow 10k on that. It looks like it fell out of one of those grab machines. It is hideous in the extreme and never in a million years is that ever going to go crazy. I doubt even Hodinkee could hype this one enough to sell all the remaining watches sitting on a shelf gathering dust.
 
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If one were totally p#ssed and had a momentary lapse of madness, I still don’t think anyone would blow 10k on that. It looks like it fell out of one of those grab machines. It is hideous in the extreme and never in a million years is that ever going to go crazy. I doubt even Hodinkee could hype this one enough to sell all the remaining watches sitting on a shelf gathering dust.
I saw one in an OB in Chicago a few years ago. It is jewelry; completely impossible to tell time with it.
 
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The chrono Octo Finissimo is thinner by 1.34mm, and it’s an auto, and a GMT

That’s the whole watch that’s thinner by that much, no?
 
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That’s the whole watch that’s thinner by that much, no?

Yes, the OF chrono-GMT case is 6.90mm, or 1.34mm thinner than the Piguet.


The OF’s BVL 318 automatic movement is 3.3mm thin, making it 0.65mm (16%) thinner than the 1180 manual (3.95mm), and 2.20mm (40%) thinner than the 1185 automatic (5.50mm).
 
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If one were totally p#ssed and had a momentary lapse of madness, I still don’t think anyone would blow 10k on that. It looks like it fell out of one of those grab machines. It is hideous in the extreme and never in a million years is that ever going to go crazy. I doubt even Hodinkee could hype this one enough to sell all the remaining watches sitting on a shelf gathering dust.


Speak for yourself. [EDIT: Ignore me yourself!! 😵‍💫😗]

It’s a Gerald Genta designed watch, and watches in this case/bracelet combo have been either nominated or won categories at the Grand Prix d’Horlogerie de Genève in all but one of the past 7 years.

That’s not to say there aren’t critiques, and an ass for every seat, etc., but only to say that yours is just one of two strong opinions available.

I think a watch design from the same guy who designed the Patek Nautilus and the AP Royal Oak, from a horology house that has broken a world record in thinness every year since 2014, has the makings for a *possibly* good watch
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Speak for yourself.

It’s a Gerald Genta designed watch, and watches in this case/bracelet combo have been either nominated or won categories at the Grand Prix d’Horlogerie de Genève in all but one of the past 7 years.

That’s not to say there aren’t critiques, and an ass for every seat, etc., but only to say that yours is just one of two strong opinions available.

I think a watch design from the same guy who designed the Patek Nautilus and the AP Royal Oak, from a horology house that has broken a world record in thinness every year since 2014, has the makings for a *possibly* good watch
He was talking about the Apollo 17 one.